Does Brian Kelly Win A National Title At Notre Dame?

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Does Brian Kelly Win A National Title At Notre Dame?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. gymman1031

    gymman1031 Well-Known Member
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    No. Not until they get in a conference and play a legit schedule.
     
  3. JohnShadows

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    Yeah, he should have to win a conference title before being eligible for the CFP. Their “arrangement” with the ACC allowed ND to avoid being filtered out by Clempsun in a conference championship game. Was a disgrace to the whole system imo.
     
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    Last year was his shot.... Big Shiny will win some games but they'll likely be back on the fire BK trail before long....
     
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    No...... Dabo
     
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    A slight chance but too much competition.....
     
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    The guy's a good coach, but I cannot see him signing the talent necessary to win a title. When he meets one of the 3 or 4 elite teams, his teams get steamrolled. It's not like he suddenly forgets how to coach against those teams.
     
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    Im a Kelly fan
     
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    I think he could reach the playoffs, perhaps with a lucky break or two. He is a pretty good coach, but not a great one. The chances of him winning his first round game in the playoffs are pretty low though, partly because Notre Dame doesn't have the talent to beat teams like Alabama or Clemson. If he did somehow win that game, then he would have to do it all over again the very next week to win the championship, which isn't going to happen.
     
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    I get the conference demand because of the conference title game but ND schedules well.
     
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    Agree.
     
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    This year Notre Dame plays @ Georgia, Michigan and Stanford. And they have tough games at home versus USC and Va Tech.

    I don't see them running the table this year.
     
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    He'll no!!!
     
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    He's has a better chance of killing a guy.
     
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    I didn’t see the “hell no” option.
     
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    How many guys has ND had drafted the past 5 years. Your post is wrong. ND has enough talent. The play calling on offense has to change. ND shut down Clemson for 3 and a half quarters in the playoffs. Their offense gave them nothing.
     
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    Read this back to yourself and tell me if there is a flaw.
     
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    I don’t know. Until a coach actually wins one I have a hard time saying whether a guy can truly win one or not.

    I don’t think ND is going back to the Charlie and Ty days. I don’t think they’re going back to the 4-8 2016 days either.

    They play a tough schedule, recruit well, and have made a playoff and think they’ll be a NY6 team this year.
     
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    Yep. They don’t recruit well enough to win a title. They look totally outclassed when they get matched up against an elite team.
     
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    Wut?
     
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    I voted no. I hope Kelly proves me wrong. But his big-game record has been lousy overall.

    However, in his defense, he has gone 12-0 three times in the last 10 years, which is impressive, and the two teams he got killed by in the Playoff and NCG were two of the best and most-talented CFB teams we've seen in the last 20 years IMO. 2012 Alabama and 2018 Clemson were both insanely talented teams.
     
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    I think he recruits well enough to win a title, I don't think he's a good enough coach to win it with those recruits though. ND's failure on the big stage is all coaching. The talent on their roster the last 6 or 7 years is on par with any in the country.

    That's why I've said for years if as a ND fan you're content with 10-2/11-1 type seasons and just making the playoffs, Kelly is your guy. But if you want national championships you'll need to look elsewhere. Kelly doesn't have "it" as a coach when it comes to matching wits with the likes of Saban, Dabo, Meyer, etc with a month to prepare for an opponent.
     
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    Hell nah. Let him win a big game that matters before asking that. Or let them keep it within 3 scores
     
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    There have been teams who didn’t even win a division play in the CFP. How is that fair, yet ND has to win a conference to be in the CFP.

    It makes no sense.
     
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    He would have a shot in another era that didn't include Saban or Dabo. Those two are just way better than everybody else at the moment.

    We have the front line talent to compete with the big boys. What we lack is the depth behind them typically. Our game with Clemson was a low scoring, defensive slugfest until Julian Love went down, and all hell broke loose. Just an example that we don't have championship-level backups behind our front end talent typically.
     
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    Ok, you're referring to OSU and Bama (Not sure if there's been another). Fair enough. But those teams don't have an arrangement where they're allowed to bypass a conference championship game that might hurt their chances.

    But I'll revise my edict - ND should at least have to compete for a conference championship. They shouldn't be allowed to circumvent a CCG in the way they can now. Like I said, they would have been filtered out in the ACCG.
     
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    Your last statement is still flawed. Alabama and OSU would have also been filtered out by not even playing in a CCG.
     
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    I understand the premise but this is a dumb argument. Notre Dame schedules as tough or tougher than anyone.
     
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    lol yeah that's the reason, whole lot of butthurt here

    Clemson didn't play a top level team in the regular season, it didn't seem to hurt them in the playoff. Notre Dame lost to (by far) the best team in the country, nothing more nothing less.
     
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    No, you're not following. Alabama and OSU were both competing for their CC's. If they hadn't lost big games during the regular season, and been undefeated instead, neither would have had the luxury of just skipping on through to the playoffs.
     
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    This might be the dumbest most obviously biased statement I've ever seen on this board, and that's saying a lot.
     
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    Domers would have been destroyed in the ACCCG, and a more deserving team would have taken that slot in the CFP. Their privileged status should be done away with.
     
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    Your claiming it's biased is about as dumb as I can imagine. Biased towards what? I'm a Gamecock fan, despise OSU and have no love lost for Bama. Wut?
     
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    Name me the team that was more deserving than a 12 and 0 Notre Dame last year, actually name me a team that Clemson wouldn't have beat in the ACCCG or the playoff that you wanted to take Notre Dame's place.

    Clemson and Bama are just far better than everyone else right now, that's just the way it is.
     
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    You're clearly biased against Notre Dame when you claim that Notre Dame is somehow "privileged" when they have to go 12 and 0 with a usually top 15 sos to even be considered when other teams get in at 11-1 playing 1 and sometimes 2 schools that aren't even division 1.

    Your argument is a joke, Notre Dame 100% deserved to be there last year they just lost to the best team in the country. Just like every other team would've.
     
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    Highly doubtful.
     
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    I will definitely be watching the game in Athens this year.
     
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    Hopefully the same result as 2017 just a little less down to the wire.
     
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    Not even close. What year is this?
     
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    It don't matter if it's 1988 or 2072, they always have a better chance than South Carolina. At least get to a playoff before you start talking shit.
     
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