David Carr doesn't think Joe Montana is a top 10 QB of the Super Bowl era

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  1. Thunderball81

    Thunderball81 Well-Known Member
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    Joe would get his skinny ass knocked around all day. Get up and throw a TD.
     
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    I'll give you arm strength, but Montana was as accurate as they come, and pretty athletic and mobile too, definitely moreso than Manning or Marino. Marino was a statue back there. FYI Montana could dunk a basketball.
     
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    I’d like to see Marino with today’s rules and Montana was very athletic. Could have played D1 basketball.
     
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    Also, Montana didn't have the speaker in the helmet to talk to Walsh like Brady does with the OC or HC.

    Brady is incredible, but so was Joe.
     
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    He'd just run right past them. For all the attention Steve Young got scrambling like a madman, Joe Montana could also tuck and run. Of course for Steve, it was probably residual from necessity while in Tampa.
     
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    Most QBs have a weakness.
    Very few are John Elway or what some think Trevor Lawrence is.There is a reason why people are saying that Trevor Lawrence is the best QB prospect since John Elway.
    In terms of overall package.

    Some like Marino or Peyton have plus plus skills. Marino had probably one of the best arms ever. Peyton could manipulate a defense like no other. Brees has probably the best touch on his passes.
    Montana has things you can't measure. There is no way you can measure what Joe Montana has. Same with Tom Brady.
    These other guys can show their skill in a combine setting. If you throw Brady with a bunch of former NFL QBs like with Montana they will be overlooked. Everyone will see Johnny U, John Elway, Peyton, Drew Brees or Dan Marino.
     
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    Steve Young put up unbelievable numbers in that offense.
    This was after the NFL adjusted. NFL CBs went from Lester Hayes and Mel Blount to Darrell Green and Erik Allen.
    The CBs of the early 1990's were faster and could play zone coverage.
    Before the West Coast everyone wanted thugs at corner. The quicker faster WR that ran short routes took advantage of this.
     
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    Andrew Luck was also the best QB prospect since Elway, when he came out of college.
     
  9. Thunderball81

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    An O-Lineman for the 49ers said in an interview. I thought Joe was gonna get kilt but he got up everytime.

    Laughing
     
  10. TheHomelessguy

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    Andrew Luck showed in 2018 what type of QB he really is.
    I think value at QB is seen when that QB is not there. Luck automatically returned the Colts back to playoff contention.
    For me John Elway is the prototype at QB. You put him next to Hall of Famers he will stand out. Luck has yet to show that off the charts ability but he is still somewhat young.
     
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    Sure, when they didn't do their job properly. Give Joe the Cowboys' Larry Allen front line and I don't think he has to worry about getting hit as much.
     
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    They don't have a speaker in the helmet. Do they? I always thought plays were signalled in from the sidelines. Either by a player or by another method but I've never heard about a speaker in the helmet, ever. I think you're confused and I'm pretty sure it's a violation if it isn't it probably should be because the coach's job is to remain impartial. They will flag a coach if he starts meddling with the flow of the game.
    Actually I don't think a coach should be calling any plays. It seems to me the quarterback if he's any good should know what to run. I never played that position but it was always a player from the sidelines telling the quarterback what they should do. But the quarterback could audible. I've never ever heard any mention if a speaker in the helmet. There were cameras. Mounted in a players helmet. I remember that.
     
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    Yes they do, for a couple years now;

    The rules allow for the quarterback on each team to have a headset in their helmet. One defensive player also has one in their helmet. It is usually a linebacker. Only one helmet with a microphone is allowed on the field at a time.
     
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    1. Brady
    2. Montana
    3. Brees

    Then everyone else.
     
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    Also David Carr (probably): There are 4 genders. Change my mind....
     

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