Not denying that. Biden sucks monkey butt.I'm not saying it is or isn't. If you think that's racist, I want to know how your voting for Biden in November because that guy has said some racist shit.
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Not denying that. Biden sucks monkey butt.I'm not saying it is or isn't. If you think that's racist, I want to know how your voting for Biden in November because that guy has said some racist shit.
The guy could **** up a wet dream.I agree with this, and ftr I’m not offended by this, just think it’s inappropriate as you suggested for a President to say.
I’m not either. But guess what, it ain’t about me.Nope. The reason I don't think it's racist is because I'm not some gigantic pussy who gets offended at the drop of a hat.
God damn liberal slander.What I don't understand is why is it relevant that that guy didn't support BLM? What does that have to do with anything?
Lots of reports..both local and national. I don’t really see any exploitation here. Especially if the man was vehemently against wearing a mask.More goal post moving. Allegedly, the masks don't protect you from catching the virus. They keep YOU from spreading the virus.
This is nothing more than exploiting a man's death for an agenda.
Again, the theory is that masks don't protect you from catching the virus. They supposedly keep you from spreading it. So him wearing a mask, not wearing a mask is only relevant to make an example out of someone who isn't around anymore.Lots of reports..both local and national. I don’t really see any exploitation here. Especially if the man was vehemently against wearing a mask.
I edited my last post.Again, the theory is that masks don't protect you from catching the virus. They supposedly keep you from spreading it. So him wearing a mask, not wearing a mask is only relevant to make an example out of someone who isn't around anymore.
Of the 130,000 + in the U.S. or the 570,000+ deaths or the over 12 million people who have contracted the virus, do you suppose there may be one or two cases where people were wearing masks and still contracted it?
Well, they are finding it difficult to prove that asymptomatic people spread the virus easily if at all. The virus is mostly spread through droplets that asymptomatic people don't produce. And that is what masks are or are not protecting you from. The studies they have done where they are concerned about asymptomatic people spreading it is when one contaminates objects like door handles and salt shakers. Stuff like that. So masks are obsolete in that scenario.I edited my last post.
I gotcha. Idk, I just saw the story and posted it. Wasn’t trying to incorporate some slander to the dudes name. The story is incredibly sad to me honestly.Well, they are finding it difficult to prove that asymptomatic people spread the virus easily if at all. The virus is mostly spread through droplets that asymptomatic people don't produce. And that is what masks are or are not protecting you from. The studies they have done where they are concerned about asymptomatic people spreading it is when one contaminates objects like door handles and salt shakers. Stuff like that. So masks are obsolete in that scenario.
It is sad. And I certainly don't mean to brush it off. Even if that is what I did. I just don't like the narrative behind stories like that. Told ya so BS without even being factual IMO. Not your fault they wrote that article.I gotcha. Idk, I just saw the story and posted it. Wasn’t trying to incorporate some slander to the dudes name. The story is incredibly sad to me honestly.
That’s a hell of a fart.This is the funniest (may be fake) illustration of how effective cloth is at blocking particles.
@TheDude1 They have released our local schools reopening "guidelines/options". Option 1, kids go to school 5 days as normal, but follow the states guidelines. Basically; Temp checks every day for everyone(students and staff), social distancing, wearing a mask when not 6ft apart(going in and out of class, sitting not 6 ft apart, etc...), hand sanitizer everywhere, etc...
Option 2 all online. The caveat is if you do this, you can't participate in extracurricular activities. Sports, academic team, band, choir, etc...
So say a K-12 school opens and there is an outbreak of 60% of kids out of 1000......so pretty massive spread. What do the stats tell us on if all of them survive?For the first semester. I have the same issues with everything you said. I imagine a big line standing outside getting temperature checks every morning. This is eastern Ky. We are only now starting to "spread" the virus. Only a handful of cases until the past month or so. Even now, we only have about 60 cases out of about 20,000 ppl. Smallllll town.
So say a K-12 school opens and there is an outbreak of 60% of kids out of 1000......so pretty massive spread. What do the stats tell us on if all of them survive?
Are these said families and staff wearing masks, going to stores, going to the pool, interacting with friends? My point is...at some point you have to have acceptable risk in my opinion. There are pro's and cons and I think the pros outweigh the cons. Consider parents not having childcare and leaving kids at home that shouldn't be. Consider kids whose only refuge from shitty home life is school. Consider kids who only have solid breakfasts and lunches at school. The districts should take as many precautions as they can to protect teachers as well----but its about the students, just as my job makes it my duty to help patients even though it increases my risk.It’s not just kids you worry about, but staff and family.
The number of young kids who have gotten the virus is astronomically low. Also, kids don’t spread the virus very well. As long as the teachers wear masks and take precautions, they should be fine.It’s not just kids you worry about, but staff and family.
Are these said families and staff wearing masks, going to stores, going to the pool, interacting with friends? My point is...at some point you have to have acceptable risk in my opinion. There are pro's and cons and I think the pros outweigh the cons. Consider parents not having childcare and leaving kids at home that shouldn't be. Consider kids whose only refuge from shitty home life is school. Consider kids who only have solid breakfasts and lunches at school. The districts should take as many precautions as they can to protect teachers as well----but its about the students, just as my job makes it my duty to help patients even though it increases my risk.
And this isn't a targeted statement, but I think it wildly changes ones view if they are getting paid to stay at home.
Might be an even more important time to put all the focus on broken homes and American family life. It seems like people can somehow draw up all this passion for social justice issues, yet neglect the vulnerable they leave at home on a daily basis. The countries priorities are def screwed up and it 100% shouldn't be on the teachers and schools to provide the basic necessities.....nor should tax payers foot the bill for, at best...irresponsible parenting..at worst, child abuse and neglect.This is an excellent time to reflect on how the responsibility for feeding kids and not abusing them falls on schools and teachers, rather than on families.
And sure, you have to weigh the risks and rewards. I am not sure if reopening schools fully in certain parts of the country is the smart thing to do, when you weigh the risks and rewards.
And the job of a teacher and the job of a doctor are not the same, in terms of responsibility.
It seems like that is clearly becoming the consensus for many. It seems like it’s just the MSM, the left and some smaller subset of normal people who are opposed. And even of those who are opposed, it does seem as though there is an ulterior motive for the hesitancy.German school study suggests kids returning to school isnt as risky as some propose.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...mHUFGZql5zDXAew2yKQfgMagkMHt3JShRmxsC53m1UrC0
I think most agree in principle, that schools should be open and kids attend as soon as possible. I think we can all agree we want the kids to be safe. But some how....mainly b/c trump has pushed for opening....its become a political issue and not a common sense stance. Nobody is suggesting to put kids in harms way. Not government, not teachers, not parents.It seems like that is clearly becoming the consensus for many. It seems like it’s just the MSM, the left and some smaller subset of normal people who are opposed. And even of those who are opposed, it does seem as though there is an ulterior motive for the hesitancy.
Have you seen what the LA Teachers Union is demanding now before sending kids back to school? It's literally f'ing absurd.I think most agree in principle, that schools should be open and kids attend as soon as possible. I think we can all agree we want the kids to be safe. But some how....mainly b/c trump has pushed for opening....its become a political issue and not a common sense stance. Nobody is suggesting to put kids in harms way. Not government, not teachers, not parents.
Will there be positive cases at schools? Of ****ing course. But you deal with those cases rationally---just as you would when kids get any other sickness.
Wow---I hadn't read that one. I think the tune would change if the paychecks for not working dried up.Have you seen what the LA Teachers Union is demanding now before sending kids back to school? It's literally f'ing absurd.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...d-charter-moratorium-before-reopening-schools
Any good news is great. I am a believer of healthy people developing natural antibodies until there is a reliable vaccine. That's why I don't think that the increase in cases among the younger population is a bad thing. But I do find these trials to be very promising.https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/07/14/coronavirus-live-updates-us/
An experimental coronavirus vaccine was safe and triggered immune responses in all 45 participants in the first human tests, according to an article published Tuesday in the New England Journal of Medicine.
“Any way you slice this, it’s good news,” Anthony S. Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said in an interview. “The first step is to get the antibodies. How long it lasts is an important question, but as long as you get it [initially], that’s a good first step.”
Probably the best news I’ve read about a vaccine yet. @GhostOf301
I do wish we had more timely data being reported but as long as they are correctly labeling COVID deaths, does it matter in the grand scheme of things whether a Florida person died yesterday or a week ago from COVID?I have been told that this is a far right wing source. But when you see the number of daily deaths reported, that just means that is the day they were reported, not the day they occurred. And worldmeters, the site that records world data, uses the reported numbers each day as if they occurred that day. So you see these alarmingly high numbers and it concerns you. But when you place the deaths in chronological order, you get a much different story.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/index.htm
What about how COVID deaths are being accounted for? What we're now seeing is no matter what the cause of death is, if the person had COVID it's being labeled as a COVID death. So for example, you could get hit by a car and die. But if you had COVID, it's still labeled as a COVID related death. That's wrong and shouldn't happen. This is a byproduct of hospitals getting more money for the number of COVID cases/deaths.I do wish we had more timely data being reported but as long as they are correctly labeling COVID deaths, does it matter in the grand scheme of things whether a Florida person died yesterday or a week ago from COVID?
There's a definite lag in reporting but all that means is that in 2 months when Florida is barely reporting cases, you"ll still see 50 deaths being recorded then due to health officials sifting through backlog and and verifying root cause from death certificates. You're seeing this now in New Jersey, New York and Pennsylvania.
Don't get lulled into a sense of complacency just because the deaths happened a few days or weeks ago. People dying today might now show up on Worldometers till next week but that doesn't mean the situation is getting any better.
We're approaching the April peak in terms of hospitalizations now nationwide.
We're likely to see deaths top 1000+ regularly going forward unless we get R<1 and slow the spread down. This can only be accomplished by wearing masks and social distancing effectively.
Not to mention half of our country's deaths are of our own doing. Between the nursing homes and the misuse of ventilators.What about how COVID deaths are being accounted for? What we're now seeing is no matter what the cause of death is, if the person had COVID it's being labeled as a COVID death. So for example, you could get hit by a car and die. But if you had COVID, it's still labeled as a COVID related death. That's wrong and shouldn't happen. This is a byproduct of hospitals getting more money for the number of COVID cases/deaths.
So I take the number of deaths with a grain of salt. The data seems to be seriously flawed. It's hard to make any sort of decision when the data being used is partial, incomplete or misleading.
I particularly like when people try and compare what we've done to other European countries. We've now conducted more tests than the pretty much the entire population of Spain, for example.Not to mention half of our country's deaths are of our own doing. Between the nursing homes and the misuse of ventilators.
Something that nobody will acknowledge is that despite almost 140,000 deaths of a new cause, our death rate has only risen by 0.102 per 100,000. The same yearly rise as it has since 2012. We're on pace to be over 100,000 fewer deaths from heart disease than the yearly average. On pace to be over 20,000 fewer deaths from the flu than last year, over 60,000 fewer than the year before.
Life expectancy in the United States is 79 years old. Average age of covid deaths, 80.