Champion will be one of these 8
- Thread starter JimboBBN
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My rankings have most of them shitting the bed
Could be one of them but there’s plenty of teams who aren’t listed that would make that list if they won the tournament.
IIRC, there’s been a few champions that came into the tournament not ranked in the top 20 in both categories.
IIRC, there’s been a few champions that came into the tournament not ranked in the top 20 in both categories.
I think maybe the 2015 Duke team was outside of the top 20 defensively going into the tournament. Not positive.
Probably both Connecticut teams. Maybe Syracuse as well. Florida in 2006. That tourney run does wonders. I want to say one team wasn’t even in the top 40 for defense going into the tournament but jumped 25 spots after it.
The top 20 deal is post tournament. People say this shit all the time 10 games into the season. You go through and win 6 games in a row against some of the best competition and you're going to rise in KP.
This is a popular stat that gets referenced every year, but it is in reference to final standings, not pre-tournament standings. There have been more than a few teams that have been outside the top-20 in one or both rankings before the tournament began.
If a team is going to run off six consecutive wins in tournament, they are inherently going to play well offensively and defensively against some of the highest-rated teams in the country, which will bump up their metrics in a hurry:
2003 - Syracuse
2009 - UNC
2011 - UConn
2014 - UConn
2015 - Duke
2017 - UNC
2018 - Villanova
UVA-MD in the Sweet 16 in DC. I feel like it's coming, assuming we can both actually win 2 games in the tourney first.
I would say it’s a tad more accurate after 30 plus games than 10. But sure, you are correct with your other statement. That being said, you’re kidding yourself if you’d take the field over the 8 teams in the tweet.
I already got my tickets for DC, so it’s prob not going to happen with my luck lol
There was a 57 adjO rank team to win the tournament, there's two 37th adj d ranked defenses to win the tourney. These are pre tourny rankings, which are still after their conference tournaments. So next sunday if you team is either ranked in the top 57 of adj KP offense or top 37 adj D KP you have a chance to win the tournament.
4/12
18/31
11/10
3/6
13/18
2/14
1/3
1/37
4/5
21/27
2/6
17/1
57/12
3/37
15/7
4/25
1/22
Pre-tourney rankings of our champions.
18/31
11/10
3/6
13/18
2/14
1/3
1/37
4/5
21/27
2/6
17/1
57/12
3/37
15/7
4/25
1/22
Pre-tourney rankings of our champions.
A tad but i just hate seeing this list every single year as its entirely misleading. One year a team with the 57th adj O won the title. Years a team won with adj d of 37 twice, 21, 27, 25, 22. Again these are all post conference tournament rankings.
So what you’re saying is that the champion will likely be a really good offensive team that plays above their season metrics on D for six straight games.
EvilMonkeyInTheCloset
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What about 67 adjO? We have a couple good games in the Big 12 Tournament. Maybe we can work on it some more.
That tweet says there’s only been one outside the top 20 after the end of the regular season, not after the end of the tournament
You read that wrong, Hail.
Since KenPom began in 2002, every NCAA Tournament champion but 1 was top 20 in both offensive & defensive efficiency. At the end of the regular season, that's the following 8 teams:
Kenpom has pre and post tournament rankings. For I think $20/year kenpom has so much info it’s the best bang for your buck.
I’d go Texas tech over Houston. Houston unproven versus the big boys
Tech had Duke down for 35 minutes.
I am convinced Virginia is winning it all. History made with Hunter coming back to avenge last year.
Tennessee doesn’t play good enough defense to win the title. I don’t consider them a contender. LSU isn’t winning it with all they have going on right now
I really like this years UVA team. They seem legit to win it all. They also probably have a huge chip on their shoulder to make amends for last years outcome.
I hope my red raiders can continue their offensive run of late. I always think being on a streak at the end of the season is a good indicator of a team that can make a run. And we have won 9 straight by an average of 18.9. With our defensive play, I think we can beat anyone as long as those shots keep falling.
I hope my red raiders can continue their offensive run of late. I always think being on a streak at the end of the season is a good indicator of a team that can make a run. And we have won 9 straight by an average of 18.9. With our defensive play, I think we can beat anyone as long as those shots keep falling.
Is LSU going to get Javonte Smart back or will he be held out the rest of the way because his name was mentioned in the wiretap?
Prepare for a ****ing rampage on my part if UVA does win it all.
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