Norte Dame basketball has as good of a chance of being excellent as Indiana football. Also Donovan won’t be returning to college as long as nba teams are interested, and they are.
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Norte Dame basketball has as good of a chance of being excellent as Indiana football. Also Donovan won’t be returning to college as long as nba teams are interested, and they are.
That isn't all the way true.
College jobs has trumped NBA jobs before. Just matters the person..
I don't know him personally so I can't speak on it
I do know it is looking less likely that it is Philadelphia.
Plus you have the issue with Sam Presti in OKC. Does Billy believe he deserves more of a say on personnel issues
Who that had a choice?
But you could see why some coaches would prefer college if the money is equal.
If the money is the same and you have the option to stay in the pros it is a no-brainer for the pros.
Do you want summer's off being around your family or chasing 15-17 year old kids for multiple years around the country while having to kiss their ass?
Each person is different.
I think the control factor is a plus to some. Those kids you are chasing are your players.
In the NBA you have a front office. A lot of issues in the NBA are coaches and the front office over players.
Calipari just turned down the NBA again.
He failed in his career so maybe he is different.
But looking at this from a coaching perspective.
College coaches have more control. They are 100% in control at all times of their roster.
Not the case in the NBA lots of times. Plus Billy Donovan had his run ins with Westbrook and Durant.
I don't know him personally so I don't know what he is thinking.
But you could see why some coaches would prefer college if the money is equal.
I mean how much do you have off, really? If you are a successful NBA coach, you could find yourself playing to the middle of June....Not to mention, season starts in October. So in the NBA, you have roughly a 7-8 month season---Off for 3 months. THen there's the travel....West coast trips---East Coast trips. For the most part, a college HC is home every single night. There are no 2 week road trips.If the money is the same and you have the option to stay in the pros it is a no-brainer for the pros.
Do you want summer's off being around your family or chasing 15-17 year old kids for multiple years around the country while having to kiss their ass?
I mean how much do you have off, really? If you are a successful NBA coach, you could find yourself playing to the middle of June....Not to mention, season starts in October. So in the NBA, you have roughly a 7-8 month season---Off for 3 months. THen there's the travel....West coast trips---East Coast trips. For the most part, a college HC is home every single night. There are no 2 week road trips.
Now, you go from coaching 16-19 year-olds, who HAVE to listen to you. WHo you basically have 100% control over. Not so in the NBA...YOu are coaching millionaires..Grown ass men. Who you have basically ZERO control over, off the floor. You have basically zero control over your roster...You might to use that 1st round pick on a PG----But the front office wants a big.
Give me the college game where I control my team, my roster, my schedule, my travel---basically, I control MY JOB.
You couldn’t be more wrong. You think kids that grow up with their egos stroked since middle school are easy to deal with? Hormones and chasing tail, worried about getting in trouble? Or grown ass men that for the most part act as professionals or they’re traded. I’m just telling you what we’ve heard from many mods over the course of several coaching searches. I’m still waiting for someone to tell me one name of a coach who was successful in the NBA, wanted and could remain in the NBA but went back to college. I’m surprised we don’t hear about all these NBA coaches beating down the doors to coach in college.I mean how much do you have off, really? If you are a successful NBA coach, you could find yourself playing to the middle of June....Not to mention, season starts in October. So in the NBA, you have roughly a 7-8 month season---Off for 3 months. THen there's the travel....West coast trips---East Coast trips. For the most part, a college HC is home every single night. There are no 2 week road trips.
Now, you go from coaching 16-19 year-olds, who HAVE to listen to you. WHo you basically have 100% control over. Not so in the NBA...YOu are coaching millionaires..Grown ass men. Who you have basically ZERO control over, off the floor. You have basically zero control over your roster...You might to use that 1st round pick on a PG----But the front office wants a big.
Give me the college game where I control my team, my roster, my schedule, my travel---basically, I control MY JOB.
Its just my opinion...For me. I cannot speak for others. I mean if you are succesful in the NBA, I doubt returning to CBB is on your mind.You couldn’t be more wrong. You think kids that grow up with their egos stroked since middle school are easy to deal with? Hormones and chasing tail, worried about getting in trouble? Or grown ass men that for the most part act as professionals or they’re traded. I’m just telling you what we’ve heard from many mods over the course of several coaching searches. I’m still waiting for someone to tell me one name of a coach who was successful in the NBA, wanted and could remain in the NBA but went back to college. I’m surprised we don’t hear about all these NBA coaches beating down the doors to coach in college.
Phil Jackson says, "hold my beer".....If you are coaching until June you had a fantastic season in a great franchise who works with you.
Otherwise you are done by April or May and you aren’t brown nosing and having to rely on children all year long.
Phil Jackson says, "hold my beer".....
True you don't have to worry about childeren---But you sometimes have to worry about adults, acting like children...Or holding out...contract issues, etc, etc...
Just for me, I'd rather be a college coach.
I can agree with this. I can certainly see why someone would want to work in college vs the NBA. Billy Donovan clearly isn't that person. He literally picked the NBA over college.
You also have that belief...
That college coaches can't win in the NBA.
This includes Brad Stevens and Billy Donovan.
Celtics success has more to do with Danny Ainge and the OKC Thunder Sam Presti.
How the hell did Ainge get rid of those veterans for draft picks. He did both Brooklyn and Dallas wrong.
Celtics could move on from Brad Stevens in the future as well.
As much talent as they have put on that team they have underachieved.
We will see in the ECF this year
If the Celtics are dumb enough to move on from Brad Stevens another NBA team will fire their existing coach and hire Brad in a heartbeat. He is 43 and a top 5 coach in the association.
You put way too much credit on the front office. Also in a winning franchise, such as the Celtics, Brad has a massive say on what happens.
Saying Brad Stevens has "underachieved" when he has been to the Conference Finals 3 out of the last 4 years with the previous two times losing to LeBron and is now the favorite to win the Conference Finals is laughable.
Compare John Wooden to Phil Jackson
Wooden gets all the credit while you have naysayers for Jackson
You and I are going have to agree to disagree with this, but Hall of Fame, 11x NBA Champion and greatest coach in NBA history Phil Jackson probably gives zero ****s about supposed "naysayers"
Also hilarious to me again that you bring up John Wooden, who had Sam Gilbert by his side paying players to come to Westwood.
"Wooden gets all the credit"
Your claim was that it was 100% NBA for everyone
Doc Rivers, top 5 coach?Danny Ainge actually moved on from an actual Top 5 coach in Doc Rivers.
It will be interesting if AD has interest in returning to Chicago after he gets a ring.I thought I had read that he left OKC because he didn't want to have build a team back up?
The Bull's aren't contending any time soon for a title unless they make some huge free agency moves. (AD??)
I can't imagine him sticking around too much longer with Lebron being past his prime. But I guess I could be wrong.It will be interesting if AD has interest in returning to Chicago after he gets a ring.
Only thing I can figure is that it is easier (though not as much as a few years ago) to reach the finals in the East than the West.I would much rather be the coach in OKC with their talent and future draft picks. Maybe they just weren't willing to give Billy the long-term contract he was looking for.
Same Doc Rivers who's teams have blown THREE, 3-1 leads in the playoffs? MOF, Rivers coached teams have lost 6 series when leading 3-2,or 3-1. Sure he has a title(2008), and been to the Finals again in 2010. But since then, his teams have made the Conference Finals ONCE---and that was in a shortened 2012 season. Also, since that 2010 Finals, his teams have lost in the 1st round, 4X's, and missed the playoffs once.Danny Ainge actually moved on from an actual Top 5 coach in Doc Rivers.