Big Ten Standings Predictions

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  1. SNU0821

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    Haha! So I take it you agree with his statement?
     
  2. CO_hawk

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    Well it's not like Cook is an NBA player right now. Not hard to imagine one of the other three 6'11"+ guys being able to play just as well.
    Now if people are projecting Cook to be in the NBA after college, then I'm not sure the others would get there.
     
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    Well our best players of the last few years where Matt Gatens ('12), Devyn Marble (13'), Aaron White ('14), Jarod Uthoff ('15) and Peter Jok ('16). The only dip we took was last year after losing Uthoff and ended up just outside the bubble. Heck we lost the whole team after 2015 and took a minor dip. Don't know why you think only losing Jok will make Iowa worse than last year...
     
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    Damn. You're starting to post just like old Gil. Might wanna get that fixed. Not the greatest look.
     
  5. buckymel

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    It's an Iowan thing.
     
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  6. Jaycg15

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    Illinois is touching Iowa. I hope it's not contagious.
     
  7. gilligan19

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    this year it looks like Iowa could make the sweet 16 and finish 4th. the 18-19 season looks to be the year Iowa makes a serious run at the BT Champoinship and a solid run in the NCAAT, then in the 19-20 season will be the best of the next 3 seasons,

    the 2019 recruiting class will determine if this continues.
     
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    I was responding more to Gil's saying losing cook wouldn't be an issue.
     
  9. CO_hawk

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    How so?
     
  10. gilligan19

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    the players that commit.
    PG for one
    then does Fran go big or small to finish the class Fran is on some pretty big time recruits in that class.

    PG Carton from Iowa is looking like the #1 option and PG Francis from Ohio is the #2 option.

    Carton already has offers from these
    Crieghton
    KSU
    Marquette
    Minnesota
    Missouri
    Nebraska
    UNI
    Wisconsin
    plus a few others.
    at the Kansas AAU event Self was watching and was talking to Fran, Martin was there and both Fran and Self were ignoring him.

    this comes from a poster on another site that was down there watching, some relation to Carton.
     
  11. UPnorth Illini

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    Looks that way to who??????
     
  12. gilligan19

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    oh I don't know maybe top 30 recruit Patrick McCaffrey will draw a couple of top 50 recruits with him and maybe a top 25 recruit.
     
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    god how that must tear your guts out to think that Fran could get a top 10 recruiting class in 2019 then in the 2020 class Fran could get another top 10 class as that class will have 6 or less scholarships to hand out,
     
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    I was referring to you saying Iowa is a top 4 team and blind for the sweet 16....ughhh, yeah..sure! Lol

    I don't think for a second Fran could get a top 10 class. Wake us up when that is official and guys have signed LOIs and are on campus.
     
  15. gilligan19

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    have a nice long nap and wait till then to post again as the 19 c'lass can't sign until November of 2018. 15 months from now

    with 2 rated recruitsand a NR rated recruit the 17 class was rated 30th by ESPN.
     
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    lets look at it this way last 3 seasons
    3rd
    3rd
    5th
    no reason to not talk about a top 4 finish, with a better seed than a 7 and the possibilitiy of a sweet 16 is not out of the question for Iowa.
     
  17. UPnorth Illini

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    Ohhhhh 30th!! Wow!

    [​IMG]
     
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    that is with just 2 rated recruits. Kentucky is #1 with 8 commits, everybody in the top 14 has 4 or more commits. just like the 2018 class won't be highly rated as there will only be 1 recruit,

    the 2019 class should have 4 commits and should be in a good position to be a top 10 recruiting class,
     
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    to add to this there are 22 teams with 4 or more commits ranked ahead of Iowa. by ESPN. curious to see where this class would have been rated if Nunge was not a NR by ESPN.
     
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    I have some predictions
    •MSU will win it and it won't be close
    •Minny will make the Sweet 16
    MSU will make the final Four
    Wisconsin will shock everyone and still make the NCAA tournament
    Penn State will be better than excepted
    Michigan will be good but awful rebounding
    Iowa will be good, but one of there best players will get hurt and f they don't finish top 4 they will claim it's because of that
    Purdue will play smart basketball, but they won't be able to compete with athletic freaks
    NW will be a 6 seed or higher in the NCAA tourney
    Rutgers and Nebraska=trash
    Ohio State will struggle
    Illinois will be average
    Indiana will be average, but people are gonna be disappointed when they think Archie is some god when really he's just a good coach
    Maryland will be good, but watch out for Justin Jackson, if he's amazing they may shock everyone and finish top 4
    I can already feel the hate
     
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  21. boiler1987

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    Care to elaborate on Purdue? Who are these athletic freaks you speak of?
     
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    Sure. While the are expienced, I think very versatile and athletic guys they might have trouble with. Guys like Miles Bridges. While I think age wise you guys are there, I don't think they are as good as some Purdue fans think they are. My prediction is 4thin Big Ten. You guys are expierinced, but on a pure straight talent level, you aren't there competitively
     
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    I have to echo this question. Edwards and Edwards are pretty damn athletic. Mathias holds his own. The only guys I think that's fair to say about are maybe Haas and Cline. I don't know their roster well enough, but it's not a bunch of stiffs.
     
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    I'll go into more detail on any of them, if someone asks me about it. Remember though my predictions are bold
     
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    Everyone in college basketball has trouble with guys like Miles Bridges. You serious Clark?
     
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    Read what I said above, while they do hold there own, on a pure talent level I don't think they are there. Sure they are an experienced bunch, but only Carson Edwards is someone I would think of when i think pure talent.
    Vince Edwards is a senior and good but not as talented as CE. Let me put it this way. Denzel Valentine was more experienced, but Miles Bridges is more talented
     
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    Bad example. How do I put it, they are just really experienced, but on a pure talent level, you can't claim they are super talented, just really experienced. I am not saying they are bad what so ever, as I picked them as 4th, just think they may have trouble with younger explosive players
     
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    I completely disagree. Purdue has 4 players that are capable of making the All B1G team in Vince Edwards, Carsen Edwards, Isaac Haas, and Dakota Mathias. I'd say that's pretty solid talent. And your claim about Miles Bridges is laughable. Everyone in college basketball will have a tough time guarding him since he's going to be a lottery pick lol. Purdue actually got more athletic this year with Nojel Eastern, Aaron Wheeler, and Eden Ewing. I think you need to do a bit more research on this Purdue team as you don't seem to really know what you're talking about.
     
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    I said bad example. Your not getting what I'm saying. Yeah they are a good team, but when they are more experienced group than a talented one. I think there is a difference. A senior Vince Edwards is super expierienced and will make the smart play, he's very good, but athletic and explosive? Not the words that would come to my mind. So when I think of Purdue, I think veteran team tat will make the smart play behind seniors, not really talented team. There is a difference. Damn I thought Purdue would be an agreeable one. They will be good, I think they will get double by. I guess what I'm trying to say is yeah they are good but my definition of a good experienced team and a talented one are different
     
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    Denzel Valentine was extremely talented too are you serious? Bridges is a lottery pick. Vince Edwards is very talented.
     
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    They are different. While they are all talented, I would define Bridges as more talented. As in I would rather have Senior Bridges over Senior Denzel. But o would rather have Senior Denzel over a freshman Miles. So while I would much rather have Denzel, Miles is more purely talented
     
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    It seems like you think athletic/explosive always equates to talent. Is Vince Edwards the most explosive/athletic player? No but he's extremely TALENTED. Purdue has a talented team and if you disagree, there's nothing left to discuss. Talented team in your eyes means a team with athleticism and explosiveness. Purdue has some athleticism/explosiveness but also has experienced and talented players. All of those combined make Purdue a talented team.
     
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    I think our definitions of tal
    You define talent as a generalization of a good team. While yes they are talented (they play basketball at a Big ten school) I would describe Purdue as a good experienced team, while Michigan State as a talented good team. You seem offended when really I'm calling them good by saying they are experienced. MSU is not as experienced, Purdue is not as talented. I guess we have different definitions of talented. Talent and experience go hand and hand.
     
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    What's bold about these predictions?
     
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    Fair
     
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    Appreciate your sentiments toward Wisconsin, truly, but I won't be shocked they make the tourney. I will be shocked if they don't.
     
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    I know you, but other people are under rating them.
     
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    As others have noted, we may need to discuss the meaning of "bold."

    So, Purdue will struggle with 1st-team All-Americans? Okay, good point. Again, this whole "bold prediction" thing may not mean what you think it means.
     
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    My mistake about the bold, I'll edit it out. And read what I said below, and you'll catchy my drift
     

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