Big Ten In-Season Thread

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  1. WheelerG

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    Yeah, Wisconsin's 2020 class has a chance of being unprecedented as far as depth of talent goes. Probably enough talent to fill UW and Marquette's classes with true Power 5 recruits and have some left over for other programs.
     
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    If Wisconsin can get top state of Wisconsin talent to stick in the next three years (2018-2020), UW will have the most talent they've ever had top to bottom, when included with the 2017 guys. Jalen Johnson in '20 and Nobal Days in '19 are difference makers that UW hasn't had the likes of much...as is Herro in '18.
     
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    If Bo was the master, then why are his development numbers worse than Beilein?

    The two have comparable recruiting results between Bo's 15 years at Wisconsin and Beilein's 15 at West Virginia and Michigan.

    Beilein has 8 draft picks and all but one didn't stay four years to go school (he should probably get a lot of credit for Joe Alexander after he left for Michigan too)

    Bo only has five under his belt and three of them needed all four years to develop.

    My guess is if Beilein had the same player retention as Bo, then he would have even better results. Michigan would have rolled to three straight F4s if Burke/Hardaway stayed one more year. F4 in 2014. Then the crew of Nik/GR3/McGary would have likely been around in 2015 for another F4.

    Not harping on Bo as he was a great coach, but he wasn't a top 10 coach in the country in development. Beilein is easily top 5 and one could argue overall number one.
     
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    Toast hooked a big one here.
     
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    Anderson was a top 50 kid. He performed on par for his ranking. Izzo obviously did a good job with Draymond and Forbes though. Forbes was a much better prospect though by the time Izzo got him. Still a good job of developing him.
     
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    Belein is a proven offensive genius. Might be the very best offensive coach in the nation, regardless of whether he is or not, he's definitely elite in that regard.

    His team's KenPom offensive efficiency rankings at Michigan are 4, 30, 67, 3, 1 the past 5 seasons. The next season after they came in at 20.

    I'm sure recognizing which type of kids can fit into his system with their skill sets is a huge part of it too, but I think he's just generally really good at developing players offensively. A good reason to target a kid like Charles Mathews to have a potential break out year.
     

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