Average wins over last 5 seasons

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  1. GE Nole

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    A high school senior in the 2021 class was around 7th grade 5 years ago. Just becoming a teenager. And teenagers have a pretty short view point of what’s “cool” or “successful.”

    So looking over the last 5 seasons (2016-2020), how many wins did your school average?

    FSU is 24.8 with 4 NCAA Tourney berths/3 NCAA Tourney appearances. My guess is that’s somewhere in the “very good, not great” range.
     
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    The latter half of this decade hasn’t been so kind to us.
     
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    Duke is 27.8. Have to believe that FSU’s and Duke’s could’ve both been rounded up with an ACCT and NCAAT this year
     
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    27.2 for Oregon

    PAC 12 Regular Season Championships - 3
    PAC 12 Tournament Championships - 2
    Sweet 16 - 3
    Elite 8 - 2
    Final Four - 1
     
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    Kansas
    29.8 wins/year
    1 round of 32 (Auburn 2019)
    2 Elite Eight (Nova 2016, Oregon 2017)
    1 Final Four (Nova 2018)
    4 Big 12 regular season titles
    2 Big 12 tourney titles

    That said, probably left at least 5 wins on the table this year by not being able to play in the conference or NCAA tourney and that would have put us at over 30/season.
     
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    2015-2016: 29 wins - Elite 8 (Syracuse)
    2016-2017: 23 wins - 2nd round (Florida)
    2017-2018: 31 wins - 1st round (UMBC Laughing)
    2018-2019: 35 wins - National champs (no one)
    2019-2020: 23 wins - Reigning national champs (COVID-19)

    141 total wins for a 28.2 average. NCAA's every year.

    I'm pretty happy with that :D
     
  7. GE Nole

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    Yeah, FSU was on the court to play Clemson when the ACCT was scrapped. Win that game and it’s an even 25 per season.
     
  8. GE Nole

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    Great five year run for Altman, no doubt.
     
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    1 less win for UK over that time span (thanks Evansville).
     
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    One fewer championship too :)
     
  11. GE Nole

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    Breaking FSU down by year like others:

    2016: 20-14 (at Valpo in NIT second round)
    2017: 26-9 (NCAA 2nd Round, Xavier)
    2018: 23-12 (Elite 8, Michigan)
    2019: 29-8 (Sweet 16, Gonzaga)
    2020: 26-5 (ACC Reg Season title, probable 2 seed)

    124-48 overall; 58-34 in ACC reg season play; 66-14 OOC and postseason.
     
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    2020: 24-7 (PAC 12 Regular Season Champions, probable 4 seed)
    2019: 25-13 (Sweet 16, Virginia)
    2018: 23-13 (at Marquette in NIT 2nd round)
    2017: 33-6 (Final 4, North Carolina)
    2016: 31-7 (Elite 8, Oklahoma)
     
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    UNC has 135 wins with an average of 27.
    Plus they won a championship.
    This past season really brought the average down.
     
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    One fewer beat down by a 16 seed too. :)
     
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    You gotta earn a 1 seed for that to happen.

    Or be a 8/9 seed in our bracket.
     
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    Gonzaga has 161 Wins for an average of 32.3 per season

    2016 Sweet 16
    2017 National Runners Up
    2018 Sweet 16
    2019 Elite 8
    2020 32-2 Likely 1 seed

    2015 was also an Elite 8 appearance
     
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    153 wins
    30 wins/ season
    2 National Championships
    4 / 5 regular season Big East champs
    3/4 Big East tournament champs

    Been a very nice 5 years!
     
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    I’ll say. Brilliant stuff.
     
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    PAC 12:

    Oregon - 27.2
    Arizona - 24.4
    USC - 21.8
    UCLA - 20.8
    Utah - 20.6
    Colorado - 20.4
    Arizona State - 18.6
    Washington - 18.2
    Stanford - 16.6
    Oregon State - 15.2
    California - 14.8
    Washington State - 12.2
     
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    Purdue:

    125 wins (25.0 per season)
    1 Elite Eight (Damn you Diakite)
    2 Sweet Sixteens
    2 Big Ten titles
    2 First team All-Americans (Caleb Swanigan, Carsen Edwards)
     
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    Big Ten:

    Michigan State - 26.6
    Purdue - 25.0
    Michigan - 24.2
    Maryland - 23.4
    Wisconsin - 21.6
    Ohio State - 20.8
    Indiana - 20.0
    Iowa - 19.4
    Penn State - 18.4
    Minnesota - 16.8
    Illinois - 16.4
    Northwestern - 16.0
    Nebraska - 15.2
    Rutgers - 14.2
     
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    2016-2017 really drags us down. In fairness, we had one healthy player above 6’6 on the roster.
     
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    19-20 20 wins
    18-19 23 wins
    17-18 14 wins
    16-17 19 wins
    15-16 22 wins

    throw out that one season and they have avg'd 21 wins
    producing 6 1st Team All BT .
    1 2nd Team All BT
    2 3rd Team All BT

    with far less talent than those at the top.
     
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    You didn’t have to remind us that you have far less talent than those at the top. Your year by year record shows that.
     
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    So we’re just lying now?

    In 5 years you’ve had 3 first team guys(Jok, Garza, and Utoff)

    2 second team guys(Cook and Jok in 15-16)

    1 third team guy(Wieskamp)

    Literally no school has had 6 first team guys in the past 5 years. Not MSU, not Maryland, not UM, not Purdue.
     
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    in

    14-15 White also a 2nd rnd NBA pick
    15-16 Uthoff also a 2nd team AA
    16-17 Jok
    the 13-14 season Marble also a 2nd rnd NBA pick

    JBo in the 18-19 season was a 3rd team All BT.

    Wieskamp was the 3rd Team All BT in the 19-20 season

    going back 6 seasons Iowa has had 5 1st team All BT players
    1 2nd Team All BT Cook
    2 3rd Team All BT in Wieskamp and Jordan

    this upcoming season
    the lineup could look like this if Garza comes back

    Garza 1st Team All BT, 1st team AA
    Wieszkamp 3rd team All BT
    Jordan 3rd Team All BT
    as the top 3

    last season they had 2 FR starters at the guard position along with two SO's with Garza being just a JR. this was a very young team.
     
  27. GE Nole

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    Why do these guys keep getting all these honors if Iowa isn’t even averaging 20 wins a season the last five years? And not a single 25+ win season?
     
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    Or.... if these guys are getting all these honors then the talent must be there, why not the wins? Coaching?
     
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    The standard answer you'll get from Gil, the one that he's prepared and is ready to get copied and pasted, is that Fran took over a bad program and it would take time. Although, he'd want you to ignore that Fran has been there for 10 years.
     
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    Yeah I know his takes on Fran. Crazy. I just can’t see why Big 10 media keep voting for these guys? I thought you had to finish in the 5 of most leagues to consistently get guys on 1st team?
     
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    its all about the coaching.
    Marble no major offers was a unranked 3*
    White no major offers was a unranked 3* but was named a FR AA
    Uthoff 3* by Rivals 4* top 100 4* by ESPN
    Jok unranked 3*
    nad now Garza top 100 4* by ESPN and 4* outside the top 100 by Rivals, in the 2012-13 season with this as Fran's starting lineup of these
    C FR Woodbury top 50 4* by both
    PF SO White
    SF JR Marble
    SG FR Clemmons 2* by ESPN
    PG FR Gesell top 100 4* by both won 25 games reaching the NIT Championship game, the FR class in the 4 years as starters avg'd 22.25 wps for the 3rd best record in Iowa's history.
    then in the 2015 class Fran brought in 5 FR and I JUCO of those only 1 graduated with the others leaving after the true FR, 2 RSFR 1 JR and 1 RSJR years everything from homesickness, grades or simply because of not being happy with their playing time, plus Cook was a EE to the NBA.

    if you look at it from 2010-2011 season to the 16-17 season Fran only had 3 4* players by ESPN and 2 4* players by Rivals then in the 2016 class he got these
    Cook 4* by both
    JBo 4* by ESPN unranked 3* by Rivals
    2017
    Garza top 100 4* by ESPN 4* by Rivals outside their top 100
    Connor top 100 4* by ESPN 4* by Rivals outside their top 100
    2018
    Wieskamp 4* top 100 by both
    2019
    Toussaint 4* outside ESPN top 100 3* unranked by Rivals
    Patrick 4* top 100 by both.

    since the 201615 season Fran has signed 8 4* players losing just one to the NBA as a EE.

    from the 10-11 season thru the 16 season not that many players in the 4* range, now we will see how much better the team will be going forward,
    7 4*'s vs 3 4*'s this season was cut short and we will never know what the end of season record would have ended up at, with Wieskamp as a 2 year starter has 43 wins after 2 years this fall it will be interesting to follow to see how many wins they have.
     
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    Players succeeding in spite of their shitty coach
     
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    So why did you say six?
     
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    6 what?
     
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    more like succeeding because of their coach, that must really piss you off.
     
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    Probably not expecting someone would bother to look it up.
     
  37. GE Nole

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    Unm...I think you missed my point. I’m saying Iowa isn’t winning very much, so why so much love for the players who clearly aren’t that great at winning.
     
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    A good thread turns into giligan acting like a moron
     
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    Who says he’s acting?
     
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    Good point
     
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