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  1. MajorWarren

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    No just pointing out praise hungry fans that get their feelings hurt easily.
     
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    Still 44-16 on the beat Alabama team ever. Stay salty my friend.
     
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    I didn't even reference the aggy's but carry on.
     
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    I could give a shit. My team has won 5 in the past 10 years. You are just so typical. As long as they say good things about your team you post it all over the internet. When it’s something that doesn’t give your team the credit you think they are due, they are all of a sudden idiots and don’t know what they are talking about!
     
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    When you call Iowa State a signature win, that ought to tell you all you need to know about your program.
     
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    a little bit about KF Records
    Michigan 7-5 overall
    PSU 8-6
    ISU started out 0-4 10-6 4 straight victories by Iowa.
    Wisconsin 1999- 2009 6-3 2010 thru the present Wisconsin has been the better team series is 44-42-2 all time with Wisconsin holding the series edge.
    Nebraska 5-3 BT 5-5 overall 4 straight.
    this team returns 4 of there top 8 off the DL 6 of their top 7 LB'rs, 7 of their top 9 DB's that were part of a defense that ended up 6th in total defense, 7th vs the run, 15th vs the pass and 11th in scoring defense,

    the offense lost their 2 TE's but they return their QB, all 3 RB's that saw their 1st starting roles as a RSSO and 2 SO's, they return 3 of their top 4 WR's, 2 of their top 4 TE's. the OL lost 3 1st year starter in these RG Walk on RSSR Ferguson, C SR Render a former starting LG, LG SR Reynolds,

    they return these
    LT RSJR Jackson 6'7 325 lbs a 3rd year starter 3*
    LG RSSR Landon Paulson 6'5 305 lbs 4* by Scout before they were bought by 247
    C RSFR Linderbaum a US Army AA 6'4 295 LBS
    RG RSSR Levi Paulson 6'5 305 lbs 4* by Scout before they were bought by 247
    RT JR Wirfs 6'5 325 lbs 4* US Army AA. a 3rd year starter
    Wirfs and Jackson are already showing up as NFL 1st round picks

    the Paulson have former starts under their belts and were the backups, Levi at both the RT and RG spots. they have waited their turn and this season it is upon them.

    last years OL allowed just 15 sacks in 13 games. the punting was the weak link but this season they have a GT to take over and he avg'd 42+ ypk vs last years punter who avg'd 35.54 ypk, they do return their Kicker who was 12-16 in 13 games. they avg'd 31.5 ppg.

    Brian Ferentz is in his 3rd year as the OC/TE
    Copeland is in his 3rd year as the WR Coach
    Polacek is in his 3rd year as the OL Coach



    that's a lot of experience that returns, as for the TE's this was the 1st in KF's tenure where the TE's were the focal point of the offense, but why not considering how good they were for a 2* and 3* recruit.
     
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    the question was last season not in the total tenure of KF's,

    2017 Win over OSU 55-24
    2016 Win over Top 5 Michigan
    those were in the last couple years
    5 out of the last 6 vs Michigan

    yeah Iowa hasn't beaten a marquee team. especially Nebraska who Iowa has beat 4 straight and 5 of the last 6,

    grow up already little boy. that's why KF's teams have 5 top 10 finishes and 2 more in the top 25. out of 20 seasons. that 1 AP Top 25 finish every 2.85 years.
     
  8. Wasnt-drunk-didnt-troll

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    Yes, we do have alot returning which leads me to believe this will be a formidable team. Like I said I could see them going 9-3ish this year(read: could lose a couple games) while still being a really good team. Quite honestly though if this group doesnt win the west this year you really have to look at '18 and '19 as failing to meet expectations. It's likely one of our tackles and AJ go 1st round (atleast) and that means 4 first rounders in a 2 year period. For a developmental program to have produced so much talent in a short period of time and not win its division would be underwhelming.
     
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    .......... and yet you aspire to beat Iowa State. o_O
     
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    We can't all schedule the likes of butane cookman ;)
     
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    Only when Kelly B was playing QB
     
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    Bama ?
     
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    Show me where
     
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    You brag about these godly wins yet every year Iowa plays in average bowl games, and when they finally make it to a big bowl game they get smacked around by Stanford. Why is that?
     
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    ? This little symbol means it was a question
     
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    Homer fan is homer.

    If you were to say anything about a senior on the team right now he would lose his $hit and tell you why that person is great including providing height/weight, star ranking out of highschool, how many past players KF has put in the NFL from that position group, girlfriends cup size, gpa, dietary needs, and some other random number I have yet to figure out. 12 months from today however he will have the exact same schtick on why the guy replacing him is always an upgrade. Gilligan gonna Gilligan bruh.
     
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    never understood where these expectations for 2018 came from. this is what Iowa lost off that 2017 team
    all 3 LB'rs who were all 3 year starters these are now in the NFL
    2* MLB Jewell 1st Team AA
    2* OLB Niemann
    Walk on WLB Bower
    2* CB Jackson 1st team AA 2nd rnd draft pick as a true JR
    3* DT Bazata a 3 year starter
    on defense
    on off of offense
    2* RB Wadley back to back 1000 yards rushing seasons
    2* TE Kittle the starting TE for the 49'rs
    4* C Daniels 2nd rnd pick as true JR
    3* RG Welsh drafted by the Redskins then hung up his cleats in August due to depression

    that 17 team lost 2 1st Team AA's, 2 underclassmen

    they were replaced by 3 new 5 new starters on defense and 4 on offense, and you were expecting to be better than the 2017 season to call this a disappointing season,

    this last season was also the 1st where they were able to rotate on defense at all 11 positions

    looking at the RB's this is how judge them
    2015 team went 12-2 and these were the top RB's
    RSSR 2* Canzeri 178 carries 976 yards vs SO Sargeant 159 carries 745 yards
    SO Daniels 135 yards 609 yards vs RSSO Young 136 carries 637 yards
    SO Wadley 74 carries 463 yards vs IKM 97 Carries 341 yards in 7 games due to injuries

    QB JR Beathard 202 completion 329 attempts 61.4% 2540 yards. in 14 games
    vs JR Stanley 235 completions 396 attempts 59.3* 2852 yards in 13 games
    looks like the RB's did just as good as their predessors did , Wadley had back to back 1000+ yard rushing seasons
    Daniel as a SR ran for over 1000 yards.

    to call this a dissapointing season leaves to question what your expectation out of a team that had to replace 5 starters on defense and 4 starters on offense.
     
  18. Wasnt-drunk-didnt-troll

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    Kilroy I mean this with 100% sincerity, I am going to attempt to have a respectable conversation with you here about a topic that you and I see things differently.

    Without all the other "stuff" could you please provide the names of the 9 starters we lost prior to the 2018 season? Some of the names you listed above were not part of the 2017 iowa team.
     
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    Because all but one of those Michigan wins were against Brady Hoke & Rich Rod teams. He loves to tout them though like we were world beaters they put a stop to.
     
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    didn't know that beating the ACC Champion in the BCS Orange Bowl was called being smacked around, going 4-4 vs the SEC in Bowl games getting smacked around KF is 9-7 in Bowl games, hmmm 5 times to the OutBack, 3 times to a BCS Bowl
    going 1-2 vs Florida
    1-1 vs LSU beat them the year after they won the National Championship
    1-0 vs USC East
    1-0 vs Missippippi
    0-1 vs Tennessee
    playing these for teams in bowl games
    Missouri
    Oklahoma
    Texas when the year before they won the National Championship
    Texas Tech
    Georgia Tech the year they won the ACC Championship,
    USC West
    Stanford
    not exactly bottom of the barrel teams like you are trying to make it out to be.
    16 bowl games in 20 years multiple NY day games before the BCS and Bowl Championship were even a thought.

    how many teams can claim that by one coach? remember he did most of that with class recruiting rankings that avg'g 45.7. now they are getting AA Game selections
    4* players
    this vs walk ons, 2* and 3* players
    this is the makeup now for this years team
    1 5*
    11 4*
    these for AA Game starters
    JR Epenesa
    JR Wirfs
    RSFR Linderbaum
    RSFR Jacobs
    JR Hankins North South AA
    the only one that is not a starter is LB RSFR Jacobs due to injury most of the 4* recruits are JR's or younger, so far in the 2020 class ESPN lists these as 4*'s
    QB Hogan out of Texas
    RB Williams out of Illinois
    OL Elersbury out of Illinois
    DT Jones out of Iowa,
    Iowa could lose 1 4* player and 1 5* player and replace them with at least 4 4* players at least.
     
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    He's the very definition of spinning facts and being a click baiter. He should write articles for Iowa football.
     
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    You talk a lot but say very little. That orange bowl game is a decade old. Didn't Iowa just lose 5 straight bowl games? And now you're touting a record vs the SEC as if it's a sign of strength and pride. Knock it off.
     
  23. Wasnt-drunk-didnt-troll

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    Kilroy, dont worry about them. Could you please provide the name of the 9 starters that were on the team in 2017 that were not on the team in 2018?


    There is something that I have noticed in your logic for sometime that I would like to discuss with you. (turnover rate) I'm not going to berate you I'm not going to belittle you I just want to try to see things through your eyes while attempting to show you my perspective.
     
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    on offense RB Wadley
    RB Butler
    WR Matt Vandeberg
    C JR Daniels a 2nd round pick by the Bears who starter
    RG Welsh
    TE Pekar
    on defense
    DT Bazata a 3 year starter
    OLB Niemann a 3 year starter
    MLB Jewell a 3 year full time starter who started the last 3 games of his RSFR year and 1st Team AA
    WLB Bower started at OLB his RSFR then started at WLB his RSSO and RSSR year.
    CB Jackson as a JR a 1st team AA

    my mistake on the numbers that graduated that played 5 starters on defense, 4 starters on offense with Butler a key piece on offense who rotated wih 1000 yard rusher in Wadley.

    can't break it down any better than that.

    RB Wadley also was a very good receiver as he caught 28 passes for 353 yards, 3 TD's, caring the ball 252 times for 1109 yards and 10 TD's,
    total yards 1462 yards and 13 TD's, that is not something that people can blow off and call it meaning less, that had to be replaced,

    the three starting LB'rs led the team in tackles
    Jewell 132 tackles, 4.5 sacks.
    Bower 90 tackles 1 sack
    Niemann 77 tackles 1 sack.

    that was a lot to replace with 3 new 1st year starters

    like I said I have no clue how any one could/should have been disappointed in the 2018 season.
     
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    Alright, nice we have a list. Alright man moving fwd I dont need to know their accomplishments or their redshirt status ect I am versed in Iowa football as well. Moving fwd we can discuss losing both RBs as "starters" because obviously we lost alot from the RB room but I'm not going to discuss Peter pekar simply because he didnt do much. No disrespect but I'm not going to call the guy a "starter."

    On paper it's easy to say "we lost 10 of 22 positions it's not fair to hold them accountable with such high turnover rate." That would be completely understandable but doeant paint the actual picture.


    In 2019 the most important positions on the football field are QB, OT, DE, agreed?
    Yes or no

    Then maybe WR,CB, C, LB?
     
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    those teams all had top 20 ranked classes with some in the top 7. this vs class ranking in the 40's or 50's. when Iowa beat Michigan they were ranked #3, and most of that team was made of classes that were ranked
    56th
    59th
    58th

    doesn't say much about a team that was ranked 3rd now does it,.
    in 2004 Iowa and Michigan shared the BT Championship.

    now they will be playing with these
    42nd 2016
    40th 2017
    40th 2018
    40th 2019
    the last 3 classes Iowa has signed 1 5* and 11 4*'s. the 2016 team has produced these as NFL Picks
    2* Hockenson 1st Team AA Mackey Award winner 1st round draft pick
    3* Fant 3rd Team AA 1st round NFL Pick
    3* Hooker 2nd Team AA. NFL Pick.

    as I said the talent is getting better and the team is getting deeper to handle the injuries.

    in the past quality of the depth has always held them back at the end of the season
     
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    They have NFL athletes throughout the team, but can't recruit a good, excellent, great quarterback.

    I think Burrow is a good quarterback, but he's a transfer.
     
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    The way some of you guys react to these polls is hilarious...They mean nothing
     
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    Iowa is going to be a juggernaut this season.
     
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    And you'll finally be playing in Ann Arbor.
     
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    This isnt going to help me with keeping Kilroy on topic but I feel obligated to let you know "we" are going to beat your a$$ in AA.
     
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    Seriously kilroy, most important positions in football in 2019. QB, OT, DE agreed?
     
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    Yeah, but It's only good, if we put a hurting on the dirty dawg! :D
     
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    no the QB is worthless with no running game or proven WR's as for OT's both were just SO's. the team has 22 starters note just 5 or 6 like you are trying to make it out to be. in KF's tenure the TE's are simply a part of the offense not the center of it like it was this past season.

    yes the year they are in plays a huge part in how this team plays during the season. your over blown expectations for 1st year starters is the only reason this season was a disappointment. that's the difference between me and you.

    I admit what they lost was a lot to over come, most expected/predicted a 6-7 or 8 wins at most and yet they finished in a T-2nd at 5-4 and Tied PSU with the 3rd best overall record in the BT, AND you are disappointed? boy you must live a miserable life to let a game of FB to upset you so much.

    you need to start following Clemson or Alabama, that way you won't be disappointed so much.

    they get the talent that you expect out of the players Iowa gets.
     
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    Ok before we go much further I would just like to clarify that you are of the belief that QB is not 1 of the three most important positions in 2019?
    I don't need all the other stuff man I just want to show you something.

    (Along with OT and DE)
     
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    actually they rotate between a H and H basis

    nice try though. still doesn't change tge fact that Iowa under KF is 7-5 vs Michigan,
    this is my biggest comnplaint since they went to division is the lack of getting to play Michigan, MSU and OSU. those games gave a measuring stick to how much they have improved and need to improve..
     
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    That's relative.
     
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    We seem to play TOSU every year. You're welcome to take our slot for a few years.
     
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    Its 2020 and you are starting the Omaha Red Scowl bvttfvcks. All players are exactly equal in each round but lower by 1 "talent level" with eqch round that advances. With your first pick which position are you taking?


    (Did you say QB by the 3rd atleast?)
     
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    Iowa only returns 10 starters and plays most of their tough games on the road but yet with the depth of their team and program they are still ranked in the top 20 by most people. Iowa had 2 1st round draft picks in April and have 2 players in Mel Kiper's top 20 for next April's draft.
     

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