Armed man attacking Tacoma’s ICE detention center killed in officer-involved shooting

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    A protest outside the federal immigration detention center in Tacoma last year drew headlines when a 68-year-old man wrapped his arms around a police officer’s throat and shoulders in an apparent attempt to free another protester.

    When police got the man into handcuffs, they found a collapsible baton and knife in his pocket, leading to criminal charges.

    Early Saturday morning, that man, Willem Van Spronsen of Vashon Island, returned to the Northwest Detention Center, the holding facility for the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, this time armed with a rifle and incendiary devices, according to Tacoma police.

    Police said Van Spronsen tossed lit objects at vehicles and buildings, causing one car fire, and unsuccessfully tried to ignite a propane tank.

    Officers were called by an ICE employee who saw the rifle. Soon after they arrived, officers reported “shots fired,” said Tacoma police spokeswoman Loretta Cool, although it is unclear who fired first or if Van Spronsen fired at all. The Pierce County Medical Examiner’s Office classified his death as a homicide.

    The four responding officers all opened fire and then took cover, uninjured. After medical aid arrived, officers found Van Spronsen dead. He had multiple gunshot wounds, according to the Pierce County Medical Examiner’s office.

    Immigration is increasingly a flashpoint American politics, and Van Spronsen’s death came on the eve of Sunday’s planned national raid by ICE targeting thousands of undocumented immigrant families who the government said missed court hearings or who had received removal notices. Seattle is not among the 10 cities being targeted in the raids.

    Deb Bartley, a friend of Van Spronsen’s for about 20 years, described him as an anarchist and anti-fascist, and she believes his attack on the detention center was intended to provoke a fatal conflict.

    “He was ready to end it,” Bartley said. “I think this was a suicide. But then he was able to kind of do it in a way that spoke to his political beliefs … I know he went down there knowing he was going to die.”

    She and other friends of Van Spronsen got letters in the mail “just saying goodbye.” He also wrote what she referred to as a manifesto, which she declined to discuss in detail but predicted would be taken by authorities.

    Maru Mora-Villalpando, an activist with the group La Resistencia, which has frequently protested the conditions at the detention center and broader immigration policy, said she did not know Van Spronsen. Nor was La Resistencia involved with the June 2018 protest at which he was arrested, she said.

    However, the group believes, based on information provided to them, that Van Spronsen was targeting the detention center’s parking lot, which includes a fleet of buses that transports immigrants to the Yakima airport, where they are deported.

    Van Spronsen had worked as a self-employed carpenter and contractor, according to court documents. He was also a folk singer, playing shows on Vashon Island and around the Seattle area.

    The 2018 protest involved about 160 people outside the detention center. About 40 people blocked a police car that had arrived, prompting the officer to call in backup; about 25 officers responded.

    In court documents, Van Spronsen was accused of lunging at a police officer’s neck to help free a 17-year-old protester who was being detained. Van Spronsen refused to comply with officers’ orders, and as he was led through a crowd of protesters, police said he tried to pass the baton to another protester. Van Spronsen was punched in the face at least once during the altercation. Nine other people were arrested as well.
     
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    That’s too bad
     
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    The stupid bastard got what he deserved
     
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    I've had an epiphany recently. I've come to the conclusion that, if the police shot more people, there would be less bad behavior. Don't do bad stuff......don't get shot. Easy.
     
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    I love happy ending
     
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    Protecting stupid people from themselves just makes stupidity chronic. It should be terminal.
     
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    This is what happens when unhinged people read or hear the insane rantings of the extreme in politics. People like AOC, Tlaib, Spartacus Booker, Fauxcahontas, et. al., denounce ICE as Nazis and foster a narrative that the US is abusing immigrant families and killing immigrant children. Some people actually believe such nonsense. The right wing corollary to this was the fool who shot up a pizza joint in DC thinking Hillary Clinton was hiding sexually abused children on the premises. That poor fool didn't realize that Hillary's husband and Epstein had those sexually abused children secreted on a Caribbean island (just kidding).

    Yesterday, noted statesman and intellectual Alyssa Milano posted on Twitter side by side a picture of Himmler visiting a German POW camp in WWII and a picture of US VP Pence visiting an immigrant detention camp. Think about it: comparing the architect of the plan that was used to murder 6,000,000 Jews and systematically starve to death and otherwise murder millions of innocent civilians and POWs, with the VP touring a camp for people who have entered the US illegally and are given food, shelter, and medical care. About 3.3 million Russian POWs were deliberately starved to death in Nazi POW camps. Exactly how does that compare to US detention facilities for aliens entering the US illegally?
     
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    Why does this crap only go down in blue states? Shit magnets
     
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    another one bites the dust
     
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    Suicide by Cop.
     
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    such a feel good story.
     
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    I can only attribute her thoughts to headboard CTE. That or the silicon from her fake cans has leaked into her brain.
     
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    .....and we wouldn't need police
     
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    The left and its sheep have become so detached from reality, its absurd. That's what happens when you blindly follow and elect idiots like AOC to positions of power.

    Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Guy got what he deserved.
     
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    Is this the same facility where the invaders tore down the American flag and raised the Mexican flag?

    I’m sure the Democrats were smiling about that...
     
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    Pretty sure he forgot the blue font.... Winking
     
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    This is AOC’s and the progressive left fault.
     
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    Their rhetoric has consequences, am I right?
     
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    It’s going to get people killed..
     
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    Dude, our treatment of illegal aliens and the way Hitler and his henchmen is identical in every way. The only way we can remedy this modern day Holocaust is by not only abolishing ICE, tearing down any border walls, revoking immigration laws but also giving them free healthcare, free tuition to our colleges, and voting rights as soon as they arrive to THEIR nation.
     
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    No more US of A while we’re at it...
     
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    I started to read this thinking you had been blue pilled, then realized it was more blue font, lol.
     
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    Yes, the problem with the Holocaust was at least partly addressed with the UN providing a nation especially for the persecuted Jews.

    If only there were some place where we could locate a nation for these Guatemalans, Salvadorans, and Mexicans; if only there were some historic land they had occupied for millennia like the Jews. It's so sad there are so many of them yet none have their own country. Such a great tragedy. We all said "Never Again" after WWII and yet here it is happening again on our very own border.
     
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    Poor guy was just misunderstood
     
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    It doesn’t compare but people like her aren’t about trying to be intellectually honest.
     
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    FIFY
     
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    Lol...We both know the original was correct. Dont be so sensitive.
     
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    Okay snowflake
     
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    I hear ya. I remember reading how the Jews stormed the camps and demanded to get put into showers and ovens. And how they begged to be skinned and turned into lampshades. The detention centers are exactly like that...............................says AOC and her minions.

    The cowards that keep selling that rhetoric need to be bound and quartered.
     
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    Case in point.


    Thanks.
     
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    Well said. In the interest of Christian conduct, I won't say what I think should happen to Milano for this display of sheer, utter stupidity.

    But by gawd I'm thinking it.
     
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    By the way, why in the hell are new detention centers going to be built in Georgia, Texas and Arizona???? Why aren't they being built in San Francisco, Chicago and Portland?????

    And of course the idiots in Congress are bitching about ICE opening new facilities while complaining about overcrowded conditions. How do these despicable scumbags get away with this crap?????
     
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    Truthfully it’s better to have them places far less hostile to their mission than places where shit like this will happen
     
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    Build 'em in downtown San Francisco, Boston, NYC, Chicago, Portland, Seattle, LA and Washington DC.
     
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    The troubling thing about the Milano tweet is, about a third of the country think it's a reasonable comparison..and I may be being conservative w that estimate.
     
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    Nothing wrong with this.
     
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    They should have used a taser
     

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