AP ranked wins through regular season

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    There are differences but there are also a lot of similarities. As far as scholarships that's probably a result of the fact there are fewer resources available at the FCS level. But governance is the same. NCAA wouldn't (federal law would prohibit it) an FCS NC from FBS if they were unilateral in how they approach the business of a championship. Like I says there are laws in place that guarantee equ representation. It's the Civil Rights Act. It was enacted so there couldn't be discrimination of any kind. You are saying why would there would be a different set of rules? That's only because at present there Is still a provision ash far chas the championship is selected. I guarantee you if you continue to insist that a championship be applied by the same metric that difference will evaporate.
     
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    You stole my idea away from me and presented it as your own is what actually happened but over it. I use a different metric now. Yours is antiquated. It's obsolete. Do use it as your sweet little heart desires but it's not essential to the process if selecting a championship notwithstanding that fact. It's like using a compass to fly an airplane why bother?
     
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    Liar.
     
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    BYU claims 1984 as a result of Iowa being a beast that year and UCF claims. 2017. For essentislly the sane reason. Comparability
    Look at Iowa St's record for verification.it there. If you look you will find the evidence.
     
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    It doesn't matter use whatever metric you want. I like the one I utilize better than I do yours. Mine serms to have the basis for selection whereas yours seems to lack credibility. Not that I necessarily care that much. Make up your own mind about what it is for thats something you can choose to fo for yourself.
     
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    Lacks credibility according to what?
     
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    In 1984 Iowa had a decent team with an 8-4-1 record, but I would hardly call that team a beast. The 1984 Iowa State team won, I think, two games. BYU didn't play either of these teams in 1984, so I'm not understanding the connection that you seem to be trying to making.

    Edited to add: please explain in four sentences or less.
     
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    It's not that important I like mine better, its' better as a point of reference.
    1999 College Football School Ratings

    1 Florida State 12 0 23.50 * 1.0 = 23.5
    2 Nebraska 12 1 21.15 * 11/13 = 17.89
    3 Tennessee 9 3 20.23 * 6/12 = 10.115
    4 Virginia Tech 11 1 18.66 * 10/12 = 15.55
    5 Penn State 10 3 17.79 * 7/13 = 9.5792307692307
    6 Alabama 10 3 17.19 * 7/13 = 9.256153846153846
    7 Michigan 10 2 16.77 * 8/12 = 11.18
    8 Florida 9 4 15.55 * 5/13 = 5.98076923076923
    9 Kansas State 11 1 15.11 * 10/12 = 12.5916666667
    10 Michigan State 10 2 14.95 * 8/12 = 9.96666666667
    11 Wisconsin 10 2 14.88 * 8/12 = 9.92
    12 Miami (FL) 9 4 12.55 * 5/13 = 4.826923076923
    13 Mississippi State 10 2 11.84 * 8/12 = 7.8933333333
    14 Minnesota 8 4 11.81 * 4/12 = 3.936666666667
    15 Illinois 8 4 11.40 * 4/12 = 3.8
    16 Ole Miss 8 4 10.79 * 4/12 = 3.596666666667
    17 Georgia Tech 8 4 10.30 * 4/12 = 3.433333333
    18 Arkansas 8 4 10.18 * 4/12 = 3.3933333333
    19 Oklahoma 7 5 10.14 * 2/12 = 1.69
    20 Marshall 13 0 9.76 * 1.0 = 9.76
    21 Purdue 7 5 9.76 * 2/12 = 1.62666666667
    22 Southern Mississippi 9 3 9.75 * 6/12 = 4.875
    23 Utah 9 3 9.07 * 6/12 = 4.535
    24 Texas A&M 8 4 9.05 * 4/12 = 3.0166666667
    25 Texas 9 5 8.72 * 4/14 = 2.49142857142857
    26 Oregon 9 3 8.17 * 6/12 = 4.085
    27 Stanford 8 4 7.97 * 4/12 = 2.656666667
    28 Ohio State 6 6 7.64 * 1/12 = 0.636666667
    29 Clemson 6 6 7.55 * 1/12 = 0.62916666667
    30 Brigham Young 8 4 7.43 * 4/12 = 2.4766666667
    31 Georgia 8 4 7.33 * 4/12 = 2.4433333333
    32 Colorado 7 5 6.88 * 2/12 = 1.146666666667
    33 East Carolina 9 3 6.84 * 6/12 = 3.42
    34 Notre Dame 5 7 6.59 * 1/12/4 = 0.1372916666667
    35 Colorado State 8 4 5.85 * 4/12 = 1.95
    36 Washington 7 5 5.68 * 2/12 = 0.94666666667
    37 Syracuse 7 5 4.82 * 2/12 = 0.80333333
    38 USC 6 6 4.62 * 1/12 = 0.385
    39 Louisiana Tech 8 3 4.47 * 5/11 = 2.0381818181818
    40 Wake Forest 7 5 4.37 * 2/12 = 0.728333333333
    41 Louisville 7 5 4.36 * 2/12 = 0.726666666667
    42 Memphis 5 6 3.97 * 1/11/2 = 0.1804545454545
    43 Auburn 5 6 3.94 * 1/11/2 = 0.1790909090909
    44 Texas Christian 8 4 3.67 * 4/12 = 1.22333333333
    45 Virginia 7 5 3.57 * 2/12 = 0.595
    46 Kentucky 6 6 3.30 * 1/12 = 0.275
    47 Wyoming 7 4 2.94 * 3/11 = 0.801818181818
    48 Oregon State 7 5 2.76 * 2/12 = 0.46
    49 Air Force 6 5 2.35 * 1/11 = 0.21363636363636
    50 Fresno State 8 5 2.31 * 3/13 = 0.53307692307
    51 Vanderbilt 5 6 1.85 * 1/11/2 = 0.08409090909
    52 Maryland 5 6 1.40 * 1/11/2 = 0.063636363636
    53 San Diego State 5 6 1.35 * 1/11/2 = 0.0613636363636
    54 Pitt 5 6 1.27 * 1/11/2 = 0.057727272727272
    55 Boise State 10 3 1.25 * 7/13 = 0.67307692307
    56 Houston 7 4 0.90 * 3/11 = 0.2454545454545
    57 Boston College 8 4 0.80 * 4/12 = 0.266666666667
    58 Oklahoma State 5 6 0.78 * 1/11/2 = 0.0354545454545
    59 Arizona 6 6 0.58 * 1/12 = 0.0483333333
    60 Arizona State 6 6 0.23 * 1/12 = 0.01916666667
    61 West Virginia 4 7 -0.35 * 3/11 = -0.09545454545
    62 Hawaii 9 4 -0.37 * 4/13/32 = -0.003557692307
    63 Iowa State 4 7 -0.60 * 3/11 = -0.16363636363636
    64 UAB 5 6 -0.72 * 1/11 = -0.065454545454545
    65 California 4 7 -1.36 * 3/11 = -0.370909090909
    66 Indiana 4 7 -1.38 * 3/11 = -0.376363636363636
    67 LSU 3 8 -1.41 * 5/11 = -0.64090909090909
    68 Texas Tech 6 5 -1.65 * 1/11/2 = -0.075
    69 Navy 5 7 -1.69 * 2/12 = -0.28166666667
    70 North Carolina State 6 6 -1.69 * 1/12 = -0.14083333333
    71 Missouri 4 7 -1.89 * 3/11 = -0.5154545454545
    72 UCLA 4 7 -2.01 * 3/11 = -0.5481818181818
    73 Cincinnati 3 8 -2.52 * 5/11 = -1.145454545454
    74 Kansas 5 7 -2.98 * 2/12 = -0.496666666667
    75 Rice 5 6 -3.59 * 1/11 = -0.326363636363636
    76 Miami (OH) 7 4 -4.83 * 1/11/8 = -0.0548863636363636
    77 North Carolina 3 8 -4.89 * 5/11 = -2.222727272727272
    78 Duke 3 8 -4.91 * 5/11 = -2.23181818181818
    79 Washington State 3 9 -4.93 * 6/12 = -2.465
    80 Toledo 6 5 -5.05 * 1/11/2 = -0.22954545454545
    81 Western Michigan 7 5 -5.09 * 1/12/4 = -0.1060416666667
    82 New Mexico 4 7 -5.34 * 3/11 = -1.4563636363636
    83 Idaho 7 4 -5.44 * 1/11/8 = -0.061818181818
    84 Iowa 1 10 -5.49 * 9/11 = -4.4918181818181818
    85 UCF 4 7 -5.49 * 3/11 = -1.4972727272727272
    86 Northwestern 3 8 -5.76 * 5/11 = -2.61818181818
    87 New Mexico State 6 5 -6.28 * 1/11/2 = -0.2854545454545
    88 UTEP 5 7 -7.20 * 2/12 = -1.2
    89 Tulane 3 8 -7.46 * 5/11 = -3.39090909090909
    90 Utah State 4 7 -7.57 * 3/11 = -2.06454545454545
    91 Akron 7 4 -7.63 * 1/11/8 = -0.0867045454545
    92 Temple 2 9 -7.69 * 7/11 = -4.893636363636
    93 South Carolina 0 11 -8.29 * 1 =
    94 SMU 4 6 -8.76 * 2/10 = -1.752
    95 Arkansas State 4 7 -8.81 * 3/11 = -2.4027272727272
    96 Army 3 8 -8.88 * 5/11 = -4.03636363636
    97 Louisiana-Monroe 5 6 -9.61 * 1/11 = -0.87363636363636
    98 Bowling Green State 5 6 -10.13 * 1/11 = -0.92090909090909
    99 San Jose State 3 7 -11.09 * 4/10 = -4.436
    100 Ohio 5 6 -11.25 * 1/11 = -1.10227272727272
    101 Nevada 3 8 -12.12 * 5/11 = -5.50909090909
    102 Northern Illinois 5 6 -12.22 * 1/11 = -1.11090909090909
    103 Eastern Michigan 4 7 -12.91 * 3/11 = -3.52090909090909
    104 Tulsa 2 9 -13.75 * 7/11 = -8.75
    105 Rutgers 1 10 -13.99 * 9/11 = -11.4463636363636
    106 Nevada-Las Vegas 3 8 -14.13 * 5/11 = -6.4427272727272
    107 Baylor 1 10 -15.97 * 9/11 = -13.0663636363636
    108 Middle Tennessee State 3 8 -16.80 * 5/11 = -7.63636363636
    109 Central Michigan 4 7 -17.01 * 3/11 = -4.639090909090909
    110 Kent State 2 9 -17.05 * 7/11 = -10.85
    111 Louisiana 2 9 -18.07 * 7/11 = -11.49909090909090909
    112 North Texas 2 9 -19.41 * 7/11 = -12.35181818181818
    113 Ball State 0 11 -23.79 * 1 = -23.79
    114 Buffalo 0 11 -29.23 * 1 = -29.23
    2000 College Football School Ratings

    1 Miami (FL) 11 1 23.22 * 10/12 = 19.35
    2 Florida State 11 2 23.13 * 9/13 = 16.01307692307
    3 Oklahoma 13 0 21.56 * 1.0 = 21.56
    4 Virginia Tech 11 1 19.42 * 10/12 = 16.183333333
    5 Nebraska 10 2 19.01 * 8/12 = 12.673333333
    6 Florida 10 3 17.61 * 7/13 = 9.4823076923
    7 Oregon State 11 1 17.33 * 10/12 = 14.4416666667
    8 Washington 11 1 16.91 * 10/12 = 14.091666666667
    9 Kansas State 11 3 15.72 * 8/13 = 9.673846153846
    10 Texas 9 3 13.78 * 6/12 = 6.89
    11 Oregon 10 2 13.75 * 8/12 = 9.166666667
    12 Michigan 9 3 12.93 * 6/12 = 6.465
    13 Notre Dame 9 3 12.45 * 6/12 = 6.225
    14 Clemson 9 3 11.54 * 6/12 = 5.77
    15 Texas A&M 7 5 11.44 * 2/12 = 1.906666666667
    16 Georgia Tech 9 3 11.30 * 6/12 = 5.65
    17 Texas Christian 10 2 11.29 * 8/12 = 7.52666666667
    18 Ohio State 8 4 10.97 * 4/12 = 3.6566666666667
    19 Mississippi State 8 4 10.37 * 4/12 = 3.45666666667
    20 Georgia 8 4 9.97 * 4/12 = 3.3233333333
    21 South Carolina 8 4 9.69 * 4/12 = 3.726923076923
    22 Wisconsin 9 4 9.65 * 5/13 = 3.71153846153846
    23 Purdue 8 4 9.26 * 4/12 = 3.086666666667
    24 Northwestern 8 4 8.85 * 4/12 = 2.95
    25 Toledo 10 1 8.63 * 9/11 = 7.060909090909
    26 Tennessee 8 4 7.87 * 4/12 = 2.6233333333
    27 Arizona 5 6 7.80 * 1/11/2 = 0.354545454545
    28 Auburn 9 4 7.64 * 5/13 = 2.93846153846
    29 UCLA 6 6 7.57 * 1/12 = 0.630833333333
    30 Southern Mississippi 8 4 7.44 * 4/12 = 2.48
    31 Louisville 9 3 7.37 * 6/12 = 3.685
    32 Colorado State 10 2 7.21 * 8/12 = 4.806666666667
    33 Syracuse 6 5 6.94 * 1/11 = 0.63090909090909
    34 East Carolina 8 4 6.93 * 4/12 = 2.31
    35 Boise State 10 2 6.78 * 8/12 = 4.52
    36 Iowa State 9 3 6.43 * 6/12 = 3.215
    37 LSU 8 4 6.34 * 4/12 = 2.1133333333
    38 Boston College 7 5 6.30 * 2/12 = 1.05
    39 West Virginia 7 5 6.29 * 2/12 = 1.0483333333
    40 Western Michigan 9 3 5.96 * 6/12 = 2.98
    41 Arizona State 6 6 5.92 * 1/12 = 0.4933333333
    42 Stanford 5 6 5.85 * 1/11/2 = 0.26590909090909
    43 Pitt 7 5 5.68 * 2/12 = 0.946666666666667
    44 Texas Tech 7 6 4.81 * 1/13 = 0.37
    45 USC 5 7 4.37 * 1/12/4 = 0.091041666666667
    46 Ole Miss 7 5 4.18 * 2/12 = 0.696666666667
    47 North Carolina State 8 4 3.92 * 4/12 = 1.30666666667
    48 Colorado 3 8 3.56 * 1/11/32 = 0.01011363636363636
    49 UTEP 8 4 3.10 * 4/12 = 1.0333333333
    50 Minnesota 6 6 3.02 * 1/12 = 0.251666666667
    51 Air Force 9 3 2.84 * 6/12 = 1.42
    52 Michigan State 5 6 2.79 * 1/11/2 = 0.126818181818
    53 Illinois 5 6 2.59 * 1/11/2 = 0.117727272727272
    54 North Carolina 6 5 2.40 * 1/11 = 0.218181818
    55 Fresno State 7 5 2.22 * 2/12 = 0.37
    56 California 3 8 2.11 * 1/11/32 = 0.005994318181818182
    57 Washington State 4 7 1.93 * 1/11/8 = 0.02193181818181818
    58 Nevada-Las Vegas 8 5 1.23 * 3/13 = 0.283846153846153846
    59 Alabama 3 8 1.04 * 1/11/32 = 0.002954545454545
    60 Maryland 5 6 0.54 * 1/11/2 = 0.02454545454545
    61 Virginia 6 6 0.10 * 1/12 = 0.00833333333
    62 Penn State 5 7 -0.05 * 2/12 = -0.0083333333333
    63 Cincinnati 7 5 -0.11 * 1/12/4 = -0.00229166666667
    64 Utah 4 7 -0.19 * 3/11 = -0.0518181818182
    65 Arkansas 6 6 -0.38 * 1/12 = -0.0316666666667
    66 Northern Illinois 6 5 -0.39 * 1/11/2 = -0.017727272727272
    67 Brigham Young 6 6 -0.66 * 1/12 = -0.055
    68 UAB 7 4 -0.69 * 1/11/8 = -0.007840909090909
    69 San Jose State 7 5 -0.82 * 1/12/4 = -0.017083333333
    70 Ohio 7 4 -0.88 * 1/11/8 = -0.01
    71 Marshall 8 5 -0.90 * 1/13/8 = -0.008653846153846
    72 UCF 7 4 -1.83 * 1/11/8 = -0.02079545454545
    73 Kansas 4 7 -1.95 * 3/11 = -0.53181818181818
    74 Iowa 3 9 -2.40 * 6/12 = -1.2
    75 Missouri 3 8 -2.63 * 5/11 = -1.1954545454545
    76 Indiana 3 8 -2.67 * 5/11 = -1.213636363636363
    77 Temple 4 7 -3.09 * 3/11 = -0.842727272727272
    78 Oklahoma State 3 8 -3.18 * 5/11 = -1.4454545454545
    79 New Mexico 5 7 -4.00 * 2/12 = -0.6666666667
    80 Middle Tennessee State 6 5 -4.50 * 1/11/2 = -0.204545454545
    81 Kentucky 2 9 -4.97 * 7/11 = -3.162727272727272
    82 Akron 6 5 -5.38 * 1/11/2 = -0.24454545454545
    83 Vanderbilt 3 8 -5.46 * 5/11 = -2.481818181818
    84 Tulane 6 5 -5.54 * 1/11/2 = -0.25181818181818
    85 San Diego State 3 8 -5.61 * 5/11 = -2.55
    86 Memphis 4 7 -7.05 * 3/11 = -1.922727272727272
    87 Idaho 5 6 -7.41 * 1/11 = -0.6736363636336
    88 Rice 3 8 -7.49 * 5/11 = -3.404545454545454
    89 Miami (OH) 6 5 -7.92 * 1/11/2 = -0.36
    90 Rutgers 3 8 -8.67 * 5/11 = -3.940909090909
    91 Tulsa 5 7 -8.77 * 2/12 = -1.46166666667
    92 New Mexico State 3 8 -8.82 * 5/11 = -4.00909090909
    93 South Florida 7 4 -8.94 * 1/11/8 = -0.101590909090909
    94 Ball State 5 6 -9.96 * 1/11 = -0.9054545454545
    95 Houston 3 8 -10.67 * 5/11 = -4.85
    96 Louisiana Tech 3 9 -10.72 * 6/12 = -5.36
    97 Utah State 5 6 -11.16 * 1/11 = -1.014545454545
    98 Baylor 2 9 -11.48 * 7/11 = -7.305454545
    99 Wake Forest 2 9 -12.27 * 7/11 = -7.8081818181818182
    100 Hawaii 3 9 -12.52 * 6/12 = -6.26
    101 Arkansas State 1 10 -13.40 * 9/11 = -10.963636363636
    102 North Texas 3 8 -13.51 * 5/11 = -6.14090909090909
    103 SMU 3 9 -13.76 * 6/12 = -6.88
    104 Duke 0 11 -13.91 * 1 = -13.91
    105 Bowling Green State 2 9 -13.95 * 7/11 = -8.87727272727272
    106 Army 1 10 -15.26 * 9/11 = -12.485454545454545
    107 Navy 1 10 -15.36 * 9/11 = -12.56727272727272
    108 Eastern Michigan 3 8 -15.40 * 5/11 = -7.0
    109 Wyoming 1 10 -16.79 * 9/11 = -13.73727272727272
    110 Connecticut 3 8 -16.91 * 5/11 = -7.6863636363636
    111 Central Michigan 2 9 -17.66 * 7/11 = -11.2381818181818
    112 Nevada 2 10 -18.95 * 8/12 = -12.633333333
    113 Buffalo 2 9 -21.01 * 7/11 = -13.37
    114 Louisiana 1 10 -21.67 * 9/11 = -17.73
    115 Kent State 1 10 -22.09 * 9/11 = -18.07363636363636
    116 Louisiana-Monroe 1 10 -26.52 * 9/11 = -21.69818181818182

    2004 College Football School Ratings

    1 USC 13 0 26.06 * 1.0 = 26.06
    2 Utah 12 0 21.76 * 1.0 = 21.76
    3 California 10 2 21.26 * 8/12 = 14.17333333
    4 Oklahoma 12 1 21.23 * 11/13 = 17.963846153846
    5 Auburn 13 0 19.86 * 1 = 19.86
    6 Texas 11 1 19.27 * 10/12 = 16.0583333333
    7 Miami (FL) 9 3 18.03 * 6/12 = 9.015
    8 Louisville 11 1 17.21 * 10/12 = 14.3416666667
    9 Arizona State 9 3 15.28 * 6/12 = 7.64
    10 Florida State 9 3 15.00 * 6/12 = 7.5
    11 Iowa 10 2 14.39 * 8/12 = 9.5933333333
    12 Virginia Tech 10 3 14.10 * 7/13 = 7.592307692307
    13 Boise State 11 1 14.04 * 10/12 = 11.7
    14 Virginia 8 4 13.57 * 4/12 = 4.5233333333
    15 Texas Tech 8 4 12.88 * 4/12 = 4.293333333
    16 Georgia 10 2 12.66 * 8/12 = 8.44
    17 Michigan 9 3 12.24 * 6/12 = 6.12
    18 Texas A&M 7 5 12.07 * 2/12 = 2.01166666667
    19 LSU 9 3 11.89 * 6/12 = 5.945
    20 Oregon State 7 5 11.80 * 2/12 = 1.966666667
    21 Tennessee 10 3 11.69 * 7/13 = 6.2946153846
    22 Ohio State 8 4 11.31 * 4/12 = 3.77
    23 Purdue 7 5 10.93 * 2/12 = 1.82166666667
    24 Oklahoma State 7 5 9.64 * 2/12 = 1.6066666667
    25 UCLA 6 6 9.61 * 1/12 = 0.8008333333
    26 Florida 7 5 9.58 * 2/12 = 1.596666667
    27 Fresno State 9 3 9.55 * 6/12 = 4.775
    28 Wisconsin 9 3 8.69 * 6/12 = 4.345
    29 Arkansas 5 6 6.58 * 1/11/2 = 0.29909090909
    30 Georgia Tech 7 5 6.41 * 2/12 = 1.068333333
    31 Stanford 4 7 6.27 * 1/11/8 = 0.07125
    32 Notre Dame 6 6 6.22 * 1/12 = 0.5183333333
    33 North Carolina State 5 6 6.04 * 1/11/2 = 0.27454545454545
    34 Alabama 6 6 5.77 * 1/12 = 0.48083333333
    35 Minnesota 7 5 5.74 * 2/12 = 0.956666667
    36 UTEP 8 4 5.65 * 4/12 = 1.88333333333
    37 Bowling Green State 9 3 5.50 * 6/12 = 2.75
    38 Boston College 9 3 5.28 * 6/12 = 2.64
    39 West Virginia 8 4 5.27 * 4/12 = 1.75666666667
    40 Clemson 6 5 5.23 * 1/11 = 0.4754545454545
    41 Kansas 4 7 5.05 * 1/11/8 = 0.0573863636363636
    42 Colorado 8 5 4.96 * 3/13 = 1.1446153846153846
    43 Oregon 5 6 4.60 * 1/11/2 = 0.209090909090909
    44 North Carolina 6 6 4.47 * 1/12 = 0.3725
    45 New Mexico 7 5 4.24 * 2/12 = 0.706666666667
    46 Brigham Young 5 6 4.18 * 1/11/2 = 0.19
    47 South Carolina 6 5 3.85 * 1/11 = 0.35
    48 Maryland 5 6 3.54 * 1/11/2 = 0.160909090909
    49 Penn State 4 7 3.24 * 1/11/8 = 0.03681818181818
    50 Pitt 8 4 2.96 * 4/12 = 0.986666666667
    51 Washington State 5 6 2.67 * 1/11/2 = 0.1213636363636
    52 Michigan State 5 7 2.30 * 1/12/4 = 0.0479166666667
    53 Cincinnati 7 5 2.29 * 2/12 = 0.381666666667
    54 Iowa State 7 5 2.08 * 2/12 = 0.346666666667
    55 Kansas State 4 7 2.04 1/11/8 = 0.0231818181818
    56 Northwestern 6 6 1.71 * 1/12 = 0.1425
    57 Wake Forest 4 7 1.58 * 1/11/8 = 0.0179545454545
    58 Wyoming 7 5 1.56 * 2/12 = 0.26
    59 Nebraska 5 6 1.32 * 1/11/2 = 0.06
    60 Memphis 8 4 1.28 * 4/12 = 0.426666666667
    61 Missouri 5 6 1.27 * 1/11/2 = 0.057727272727272
    62 Navy 10 2 1.20 * 8/12 = 0.8
    63 Connecticut 8 4 0.83 * 4/12 = 0.2766666667
    64 Hawaii 8 5 0.56 * 3/13 = 0.12923076923
    65 Air Force 5 6 0.52 * 1/11/2 = 0.02363636363636
    66 Arizona 3 8 0.37 * 1/11/32 = 0.00105113636363636
    67 Colorado State 4 7 0.08 * 1/11/8 = 0.000909090909
    68 Northern Illinois 9 3 0.06 * 6/12 = 0.03
    69 Louisiana Tech 6 6 0.00 * 1/12 = 0.0
    70 Syracuse 6 6 -0.07 * 1/12 = -0.00583333333
    71 Troy 7 5 -0.47 * 1/12/4 = -0.0097916666667
    72. S. Mississippi 7 5 -1.09 * 1/12/4 = -0.022708333333
    73 Toledo 9 4 -1.65 * 1/13/32 = -0.003966346153846
    74 Miami (OH) 8 5 -1.93 * 1/13/8 = -0.01855769230769
    75 UAB 7 5 -2.15 * 1/12/4 = -0.044791666666667
    76 Ole Miss 4 7 -2.17 * 3/11 = -0.59181818181818
    77 San Diego State 4 7 -2.57 * 3/11 = -0.700909090909
    78 Texas Christian 5 6 -3.04 * 1/11 = -0.27636363636363
    79 Illinois 3 8 -4.53 * 5/11 =
    80 Marshall 6 6 -4.74 * 1/12 =
    81 Indiana 3 8 -4.98 * 5/11 =
    82 New Mexico State 5 6 -5.95 * 1/11 =
    83 Washington 1 10 -6.27 * 9/11 =
    84 Houston 3 8 -6.84 * 5/11 =
    85 North Texas 7 5 -6.90 * 1/12/4 =
    86 Mississippi State 3 8 -6.97 * 5/11 =
    87 Florida Atlantic 9 3 -6.99 * 1/12/64 =
    88 South Florida 4 7 -7.03 * 3/11 =
    89 Kentucky 2 9 -7.26 * 7/11 =
    90 Vanderbilt 2 9 -7.28 * 7/11 =
    91 Baylor 3 8 -7.51 * 5/11 =
    92 Kent State 5 6 -7.53 * 1/11 =
    93 Tulsa 4 8 -7.57 * 4/12 =
    94 Duke 2 9 -8.04 * 7/11 =
    95 Tulane 5 6 -8.12 * 1/11 =
    96 Rutgers 4 7 -8.16 * 3/11 =
    97 Nevada-Las Vegas 2 9 -8.21 * 7/11 =
    98 Akron 6 5 -9.06 * 1/11/2 =
    99 Middle Tennessee State 5 6 -9.19 * 1/11 =
    100 Rice 3 8 -9.31 * 5/11 =
    101 Nevada 5 7 -9.93 8 2/12 =
    102 SMU 3 8 -10.95 * 5/11 =
    103 Temple 2 9 -11.33 * 7/11 =
    104 Army 2 9 -11.36 * 7/11 =
    105 East Carolina 2 9 -12.89 * 7/11 =
    106 Ohio 4 7 -13.25 * 3/11 =
    107 Louisiana-Monroe 5 6 -13.40 * 1/11 =
    108 Louisiana 4 7 -13.67 * 3/11 =
    109 San Jose State 2 9 -14.39 * 7/11 =
    110 Utah State 3 8 -14.55 * 5/11 =
    111 Ball State 2 9 -15.30 * 7/11 =
    112 Arkansas State 3 8 -16.05 * 5/11 =
    113 Eastern Michigan 4 7 -17.01 * 3/11 =
    114 Central Michigan 4 7 -17.07 * 3/11 =
    115 Idaho 3 9 -17.61 * 6/12 =
    116 Western Michigan 1 10 -18.81 * 9/11 =
    117 Florida A&M 3 8 -21.65 * 5/11 =
    118 UCF 0 11 -21.68 * 1 =
    119 Buffalo 2 9 -21.95 * 7/11 =
    120 Florida International 3 7 -22.45 * 4/10 =
     
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    ? Point?

    And more ranked wins than 13 out of the 14 Big Ten schools.
    How's that perspective.
     
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    You posted the 2000 ratings because?
     
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    I know nothing? That's not John Snow that's Colonel Klink. Hogan's Heroes
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    2008 College Football School Ratings

    1 Florida 13 1 25.37
    2 Oklahoma 12 2 24.79
    3 Texas 12 1 23.98
    4 USC 12 1 22.24
    5 Penn State 11 2 17.82
    6 Alabama 12 2 16.15
    7 Texas Tech 11 2 15.46
    8 Ohio State 10 3 13.94
    9 Utah 13 0 13.79
    10 Texas Christian 11 2 13.47
    11 Missouri 10 4 13.11
    12 Oklahoma State 9 4 13.09
    13 Boise State 12 1 12.83
    14 Oregon 10 3 12.39
    15 Ole Miss 9 4 12.11
    16 Georgia 10 3 11.60
    17 Iowa 9 4 11.11
    18 Nebraska 9 4 10.92
    19 Florida State 9 4 10.67
    20 California 9 4 10.43
    21 Oregon State 9 4 10.26
    22 Kansas 8 5 9.23
    23 Arizona 8 5 9.21
    24 Pitt 9 4 8.87
    25 Virginia Tech 10 4 8.14
    26 Michigan State 9 4 7.92
    27 North Carolina 8 5 7.90
    28 Wake Forest 8 5 7.45
    29 West Virginia 9 4 7.09
    30 Tulsa 11 3 7.06
    31 Clemson 7 6 6.97
    32 Georgia Tech 9 4 6.78
    33 Boston College 9 5 6.72
    34 Rutgers 8 5 6.35
    35 Ball State 12 2 6.26
    36 Cincinnati 11 3 6.03
    37 LSU 8 5 5.91
    38 South Carolina 7 6 5.21
    39 Brigham Young 10 3 4.96
    40 Miami (FL) 7 6 4.85
    41 Northwestern 9 4 4.82
    42 Connecticut 8 5 4.67
    43 Vanderbilt 7 6 4.48
    44 South Florida 8 5 4.45
    45 Rice 10 3 3.92
    46 Kentucky 7 6 3.55
    47 Navy 8 5 3.53
    48 Notre Dame 7 6 2.99
    49 Illinois 5 7 2.96
    50 Maryland 8 5 2.96
    51 Baylor 4 8 2.59
    52 Air Force 8 5 2.55
    53 Nevada 7 6 2.25
    54 Houston 8 5 2.21
    55 Wisconsin 7 6 1.82
    56 Tennessee 5 7 1.64
    57 Arizona State 5 7 1.62
    58 East Carolina 9 5 1.58
    59 North Carolina State 6 7 1.41
    60 Virginia 5 7 1.40
    61 Auburn 5 7 1.26
    62 Troy 8 5 1.06
    63 Southern Mississippi 7 6 0.46
    64 Minnesota 7 6 0.01
    65 Stanford 5 7 -0.04
    66 Arkansas 5 7 -0.36
    67 Duke 4 8 -0.39
    68 Buffalo 8 6 -0.41
    69 Purdue 4 8 -0.54
    70 Western Michigan 9 4 -0.87
    71 Colorado 5 7 -1.07
    72 Bowling Green State 6 6 -2.00
    73 Northern Illinois 6 7 -2.73
    74 Central Michigan 8 5 -2.75
    75 Temple 5 7 -3.38
    76 Kansas State 5 7 -3.39
    77 Fresno State 7 6 -3.53
    78 Louisiana Tech 8 5 -3.56
    79 Louisville 5 7 -3.83
    80 Colorado State 7 6 -3.96
    81 UCLA 4 8 -3.98
    82 Hawaii 7 7 -4.06
    83 New Mexico 4 8 -4.18
    84 Michigan 3 9 -4.66
    85 UTEP 5 7 -4.95
    86 Mississippi State 4 8 -5.00
    87 Texas A&M 4 8 -5.38
    88 Louisiana 6 6 -5.57
    89 Memphis 6 7 -5.62
    90 Florida Atlantic 7 6 -5.70
    91 Arkansas State 6 6 -6.24
    92 Florida International 5 7 -6.58
    93 Akron 5 7 -6.87
    94 San Jose State 6 6 -7.22
    95 Nevada-Las Vegas 5 7 -7.41
    96 Marshall 4 8 -7.66
    97 Iowa State 2 10 -7.80
    98 UCF 4 8 -8.39
    99 Middle Tennessee State 5 7 -8.58
    100 Indiana 3 9 -8.73
    101 Ohio 4 8 -8.80
    102 Syracuse 3 9 -9.00
    103 Utah State 3 9 -9.20
    104 UAB 4 8 -9.78
    105 Louisiana-Monroe 4 8 -10.58
    106 Kent State 4 8 -11.10
    107 Wyoming 4 8 -11.44
    108 New Mexico State 3 9 -11.99
    109 Washington 0 12 -12.08
    110 Toledo 3 9 -12.22
    111 Army 3 9 -12.69
    112 Western Kentucky 2 10 -13.78
    113 Washington State 2 11 -13.82
    114 Eastern Michigan 3 9 -13.89
    115 SMU 1 11 -14.50
    116 San Diego State 2 10 -14.97
    117 Tulane 2 10 -15.77
    118 Miami (OH) 2 10 -17.24
    119 Idaho 2 10 -19.87
    120 North Texas 1 11 -22.21
     
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    Do you really want to know?
     
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    Actually the answer might intrigue you. Because I can. You can't. Which is a little ironing since you supposedly established yourself based on a website you "helped" create that's no longer in existence. Makes me think probably correctly you were simply talking out your backside, same as usual. I don't really care, truth be told. Nothing you do impresses me. I never has, either.
     
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    Not really but he is like a really bad movie and I'm the only idiot still left in the theater waiting to see if the credits reveal a plot twist that explains anything about what I have watched.
     
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    I guess I'm not conveying my ideas in a way that you can relate to. Why Iowa is essential is simple. SOS was insufficient (by itself) to put BYU as a NC. They weren't able to secure it, themselves. And that's a result of their schedule being lax (to the measure required to secure a national title). Same argument applies against UCF. I wasn't comparing BYU to Iowa St. But if you want to know the measure they DO compare is 4-0 favoring Iowa St. (0-4 then). But like I said I'm admitting Iowa. And it's fair to do that to the measure they comply (1/3 of a championship) against 2/3 for Brigham Young. It will make more sense when I give the specfic data, but you have to trust that I'm doing it correctly. In a similar fahsion to Florida (2008) taking 2/3 of the championship to 1/3 for Utah. Similar argument applies in this circumstance.

    I'm not saying singularly (BYU/Iowa) either team merits a championship. They don't, but it's worth noting (you can compare it yourself) Iowa was a contributing factor to MIchigan falling short of a national championship in 1985 (In fact the case might be made that the ONLY reason MIchigan wasn't a NC was because of Iowa). Hence the eligibility requirement I'm utilizing here. You might think a similar event would be impossible (and I might agree). But the simple fact is (or at least appears to be) that in FACT it DID happen again. This time with Iowa St playing the part of the co-NC.

    You might ask how a 8-4-1 team can EVER claim a championship. Well, the simple answer to that is they can't. But I'm splitting hairs. I'm taking the measure (1/3) to which each team is admitted, including the primary contributor (BYU, UCF) to the measure they're capable of claiming one (2/3) and getting a result, while admittedly unusual and probably not the first thing someone would consider nevertheless seems to adequately address it (the championship). And while it's 2/1 favoring BYU/UCF over Iowa/Iowa St. to make the championship "stick" I'm admitting both to 50%.

    Meaning there's a way to include a team, that might not ordinarily apply. It's indeed a crazy circumstance but it happened TWICE in 33 years, and possibly happened earlier but I've yet to discover any evidence of that. (closest I've come is the co-championship between Michigan St and N. Dame), which introduces a redundancy element. Clearly Iowa isn't a NC. Neither for that matter is Iowa St. (at 8-4-1) but they're capable of challenging to a championship and to the measure they're admitted (1/3) they DO. As hard as that might be to follow, that's the protocol I'm applying.

    What it DOES is raise the standard (relative proficiency) to where it needs to be to consider EITHER team (BYU/Iowa), (UCF/Iowa St). I believe BYU/Iowa is 96% cumulative (100% relative proficiency says national title). Or deficient by 4%. and I think UCF/Iowa St is about 95% but I'm not sure about that one because I've yet to take that one and sort it out, but it's 96% for BYU/Iowa and it stands to reason a UCF/Iowa St would be approximately the same so 95% is probably a pretty close approximation.

    Which in EITHER circumstance says "co-champion". A team finishing third. UF in 1984, and Alabama in 2017. That are recognized as national titleists.
    I think if you susped disbelief and "roll with it" you will see I'm right about it. It isn't to "punish" Alabama, not in the slightest, if anything I'm rewarding Alabama for having beaten Clemson (eliminating them) and recognizing them (ex-post-facto) as a national champion for 2016. Exclusively. Fairly. Clemson therefore "forfeits" the 2016 national championship (largely a result of having lost the "rubber" match, the third pairing, to Alabama). It's an unusual circumstance, but I think there's evidence Alabama wasn't a NC. That's again NOT picking on Alabama. I think UCF/Iowa St deserved it. Similar to how BYU/Iowa deserved 1984, with Florida finishing third.

    I remember when asked (queried) about how a hypothetical pairing between Alabama and UCF might play out, Nick Saban was dismissive, but there was an Alabama player (not sure who) to his credit, acknowledged it was anything but a foregone conclusion Alabama would win. But he did suggest if they did play that Alabama would play their hardest to beat UCF. As I'm sure if UF played BYU that would likely be the case. And depending on how you want to approach it, if you don't include Iowa St, then it's Alabama's championship to lose (as it would be for Florida, if Iowa is excluded), but that's the beauty. I think in either circumstance there's sufficient basis for inclusion. Weird? Yes, but not necessarily unfair. Why should it bother anyone that there might be a way to select a co-championship? I think in a way, it's a beautiful compromise. People can't tear BYU apart if they're sharing a championship with Iowa. Similarly if UCF is sharing it with Iowa St, there's less chance either team will lose.

    It's something nobody's really addressed. Other than I guess 1966, when Notre Dame and MIchigan St were co-champions. But even THEN there were alternatives (I believe that's a year where a title might fall to Alabama).
    Are you following? There are ways to include a championship that might not be completely obvious, but nevertheless DO follow a protocol and seem to yield a result that's incontrovertible. It's something I discovered myself.
     
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    For some reason I like this list best.....
     
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    Yeah that's a
    Yeah I concur. When we deal with uncertainty which is actually fairly common especially particular to a broad set of parameters it's best to use a big net from which we can compare a team's proficiency. I haven't a clue where Brigham Young falls by this standard. Maybe @DTP-2 can enlighten us all by expanding the survey to include more teams? That sound be nice. Curious to see Oklahoma represented well as they are. But that says something if the standard to which they compare. Also true notice but only to the percentage (a distinguishing attribute) but also the relative measure go which those teams qualify. (Or the basis from which excellence is applied). We found cast a wider net. Top-15 in my opinion is prohibitive. (Simply an opinion). If it were my survey I'd be inclined to include as many as fourty. But let's compromise. Can you provide a list of say the top 100? Again that's where I see it falling. A team can finish in the top-100 (you included the top 50) and expand it to include records against the top-20? Does that seem reasonable.? I'm sure that sound include Brigham Young. Can you expand the list? Cumulative record against the top-20. If you can't then nevermind. Or take the list already listed and include 60 teams? I'd be surprised if Brigham Young weren't represented among the top-60. Somewhere .
     
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    Each current/former FBS member ranked according its best season (points not rank) under my point system.

    1 2015 -Alabama 102.0
    2 2018 -Clemson 101.0
    3 2002 -Ohio State 93.0
    4 2010 -Auburn 90.0
    5 2006 -Florida 88.0
    6 2000 -Oklahoma 84.0
    7 2011 -Louisiana State 84.0
    8 1978 -Southern California 83.0
    9 1989 -Notre Dame 81.0
    10 2002 -Georgia 80.0
    11 2009 -Texas 78.0
    12 2011 -Oklahoma State 78.0
    13 1999 -Florida State 77.0
    14 1998 -Tennessee 76.0
    15 2017 -Wisconsin 76.0
    16 2014 -Oregon 75.0
    17 1994 -Nebraska 74.5
    18 1991 -Miami-Florida 74.5
    19 1997 -Michigan 74.0
    20 2017 -Central Florida 73.0
    21 2008 -Utah 72.0
    22 1994 -Penn State 71.0
    23 2006 -Boise State 71.0
    24 2006 -Louisville 71.0
    25 2015 -Michigan State 71.0
    26 2015 -Stanford 70.0
    27 2010 -Texas Christian 69.0
    28 1990 -Colorado 68.5
    29 1991 -Washington 68.0
    30 1996 -Brigham Young 65.0
    31 1981 -Pittsburgh 64.0
    32 2003 -Miami-Ohio 63.0
    33 2011 -Houston 63.0
    34 2000 -Virginia Tech 62.0
    35 1996 -Arizona State 61.0
    36 2009 -Cincinnati 59.0
    37 2013 -Missouri 59.0
    38 2007 -West Virginia 58.0
    39 1998 -UCLA 58.0
    40 1990 -Georgia Tech 57.0
    41 1998 -Texas A&M 57.0
    42 1995 -Northwestern 57.0
    43 1999 -Marshall 56.0
    44 1995 -Toledo 55.5
    45 1997 -Kansas State 55.0
    46 2013 -South Carolina 55.0
    47 2009 -Iowa 55.0
    48 1998 -Arizona 54.0
    49 1980 -North Carolina 53.5
    50 1987 -Syracuse 53.0
    51 2007 -Kansas 53.0
    52 2000 -Oregon State 53.0
    53 2016 -Western Michigan 52.0
    54 1979 -Arkansas 52.0
    55 2010 -Nevada 51.0
    56 2013 -Baylor 51.0
    57 1989 -Illinois 50.5
    58 2006 -Rutgers 50.0
    59 1985 -Air Force 49.5
    60 1988 -Wyoming 49.0
    61 1998 -Tulane 48.0
    62 2018 -Fresno State 48.0
    63 2011 -Southern Mississippi 47.0
    64 1997 -Washington State 47.0
    65 2008 -Texas Tech 47.0
    66 2017 -Florida Atlantic 47.0
    67 2015 -Mississippi 47.0
    68 1991 -Bowling Green 46.0
    69 1992 -Hawaii 46.0
    70 1994 -Colorado State 46.0
    71 1982 -Southern Methodist 45.5
    72 1991 -California 45.0
    73 2015 -Navy 45.0
    74 2007 -Boston College 45.0
    75 2015 -Western Kentucky 42.0
    76 2009 -Central Michigan 42.0
    77 2002 -Maryland 42.0
    78 1979 -Purdue 41.0
    79 2018 -Appalachian State 41.0
    80 1989 -Virginia 41.0
    81 2002 -North Carolina State 41.0
    82 1991 -East Carolina 38.0
    83 1978 -Ball State 38.0
    84 2016 -South Florida 37.0
    85 2006 -Wake Forest 37.0
    86 1979 -McNeese State 36.5
    87 2018 -Troy 36.0
    88 2018 -Kentucky 36.0
    89 1990 -San Jose State 35.5
    90 2014 -Mississippi State 35.0
    91 2017 -Memphis 35.0
    92 2018 -Army 35.0
    93 1983 -Northern Illinois 34.5
    94 1982 -New Mexico 34.0
    95 2012 -Tulsa 34.0
    96 1984 -UNLV 33.0
    97 2018 -UAB 32.0
    98 2012 -Arkansas State 32.0
    99 2014 -Louisiana Tech 32.0
    100 1987 -Eastern Michigan 31.5
    101 1979 -Temple 31.0
    102 2018 -Utah State 30.0
    103 2008 -Rice 30.0
    104 2017 -San Diego State 30.0
    105 1978 -North Texas 29.5
    106 2003 -Minnesota 29.0
    107 1984 -Cal State Fullerton 27.0
    108 2018 Georgia Southern 27.0
    109 1981 -Yale 26.5
    110 2012 -Kent State 25.0
    111 2000 -Iowa State 25.0
    112 2013 -Duke 25.0
    113 2000 -Texas-El Paso 23.0
    114 1993 -Indiana 22.0
    115 2007 -Connecticut 22.0
    116 1980 -Furman 21.0
    117 2014 -Louisiana-Lafayette 21.0
    118 1980 -Long Beach State 21.0
    119 2016 Old Dominion 20.0
    120 2018 -Buffalo 19.0
    121 2011 -Ohio 17.0
    122 2012 -Vanderbilt 17.0
    123 1979 -Texas-Arlington 16.0
    124 1978 -Dartmouth 16.0
    125 2009 -Middle Tennessee State 15.0
    126 1978 -Brown 15.0
    127 2016 -Idaho 15.0
    128 1981 -Drake 13.0
    129 1979 -Chattanooga 13.0
    130 1981 -Southern Illinois 11.0
    131 1989 -Akron 10.0
    132 1978 -Holy Cross 9.5
    133 1980 -Tennessee State 8.0
    134 1980 -Harvard 7.0
    135 1979 -Lamar 7.0
    136 1978 -East Tennessee State 6.0
    137 2018 -Florida International 5.0
    138 1981 -Princeton 4.0
    139 1980 -Cornell 4.0
    140 1978 -Louisiana-Monroe 3.0
    141 1980 -Villanova 2.5
    142 1979 -West Texas A&M 2.5
    143 1979 -Indiana State 0.0
    144 1978 -New Mexico State 0.0
    145 1979 -Citadel -0.5
    146 1981 -VMI -1.0
    147 2017 -Georgia State -1.0
    148 1978 -Western Carolina -1.0
    149 1979 -Colgate -2.0
    150 2013 -South Alabama -2.0
    151 1981 -Pacific -3.0
    152 1981 -Wichita State -3.0
    153 1980 -Illinois State -5.0
    154 2014 -Texas State -7.0
    155 1981 -William & Mary -8.0
    156 1978 -Columbia -8.5
    157 1980 -Richmond -12.5
    158 2018 Coastal Carolina -14.0
    159 1978 -Pennsylvania -14.5
    160 2017 -UTSA -16.0
    161 2018 Charlotte -19.0
    162 2017 -Massachusetts -31.0
     
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    Is this taking into consideration that there are more games played today than there were 20+ years ago?
     
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    No. Teams that played more games have an advantage. I could do a points per game list at some point.
     
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    I don't think so. I thought no the evidence points directly to Miami, FL. Playoffs are ridiculous. Miami,FL really had to overcome done heavy odds just to be admitted. When they beat Nebraska that proved they were a national champion. At least that year. That's why I think a playoff is a ridiculous idea. Must people understood by season's end it was either Auburn or it was Miami, FL. They squared off in a championship game (KOC).. I thought no the fact Miami, FL win ended speculation about who the better team was.nit was Miami, FL. Similarly when BYU played U.C.L.A. that was a Belt (CFP) on the lib U.C.L.A. actually won but it still proved BYU was capable of winning it. U C.L.A. actually needed a miracle to pull that off
     
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    So so dumb.
     
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    Not really if there was a playoff even if it was limited to eight which advance? Texas is out and I think so is Georgia as a result of the format. Who remains? Florida is out. Double elimination. So is Illinois. Same reason. Who is left? Aubutn. Only Auburn. But even they are suspect. Having lost to Texas really puts them in a predicament.
    Admit Georgia. Ok fine by me. They're removed by Florida following year. Really the only reasonable explanation is Miami, FL.
    No playoff required. In fact it would be ridiculous and redundant. It wouldn't fly. So while admittedly it took another game the champion was I'm fact Miami, FL.
    CFP (Belt).
    Much much much .much much better IMO.
     
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    Even dumber than previous post.
     
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    This cut and paste from above
    If I didn't screw this up here are regular season win percentages versus final AP top 15.

    1 -Oklahoma 43 56 2 0.436
    2 -Southern California 38 59 1 0.393
    3 -Ohio State 27 44 3 0.385
    4 -Florida State 35 58 1 0.378
    5 -Miami-Florida 29 53 0 0.354
    6 -Michigan 32 63 2 0.340
    7 -Nebraska 27 54 1 0.335
    8 -Florida 36 74 2 0.330
    9 -Auburn 35 74 2 0.324
    10 -Notre Dame 32 70 1 0.316
    11 -Alabama 26 60 2 0.307
    12 -Texas 28 66 1 0.300
    13 -Boise State 3 8 0 0.273
    14 -Washington 24 66 1 0.269
    15 -Louisiana State 24 68 2 0.266
    16 -Penn State 22 64 1 0.259
    17 -Georgia 22 65 2 0.258
    18 -Clemson 17 50 1 0.257
    19 -Oregon 18 55 1 0.250
    20 -Stanford 22 74 1 0.232
    21 -Tennessee 20 77 4 0.218
    22 -Iowa 17 64 1 0.213
    23 -Michigan State 20 79 0 0.

    Tells the real story Sooners #1
     
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    Yeah but it wasn't your idea. That's the problem I have with it. If it was your idea that would be different. But it's not. It's my idea and you took it and tried to pawn it off as something you did. That's theft.
     
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    You are a liar.
     
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    What story does it tell? I suspect it was fine incorrectly. It came with a disclaimer. @DTP-2.
     
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    Dude please refrain from that. I think if you are honest with yourself you will admit to yourself not only why but even how I invented it. You have permission to use it. But it was assuredly my idea. I frankly don't care all that much. It's not going to make me happy yo have done kind of copyright. Take it. But at least acknowledge it was my idea.
     
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    It is a simple idea that no doubt many people have thought of something similar. I came up with my concept along time ago and have referenced it on here long before you showed up. You have been on this site for at least seven years and I have been beating this board over the head with my idea all that time and not once did you claim you came up with until very recently. I don't need your permission to use it. Beyond that, I seriously doubt you could invent any coherent idea. You think results in different seasons count in other years. You think the belt has any value and is the same thing as a four team playoff which you say isn't a four team playoff.
     
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    You haven't done anything I consider particularly relevant or meaningful. It's suspicious to say the least that you would independently regurgitate something I now consider to be mostly quizzical and non-sensical. How you choose to apply it is mostly your own business. I'm not especially interested in what your idea says about anything in particular. Also you shouldn't post anything if you can't identify the source material. I think I've told you countless times (me along with everyone else the Associated Press poll is off limits Countless times. You shouldn't reference it. I don't care if it's applied in the context of 'your: ranking which again clearly never was
    You have the audacity to accuse me of my ng but it seems fairly self-evident you are.
    Stop it. Serioudly. I doubt your survey is correct. That's o.k. to a point. There are such things as works in progress. That's o.k. but you never fix your mistakes. I do. Which Is troubling. Don't present a detailed list if you can't present it accurately. . That's annoying.
     
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    WTF are you talking about? I don't imagine there are any laws against adding up the number of wins teams have versus AP ranked competition. Beyond that, I'm not aware any mistakes.........if someone pointed them out, I wouldn't need to.
     
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    I'm just getting a kick out of your one word replies generating a six paragraph reply over and over.

    The guy has probably gone through three keyboards at this pointRollLaugh
     
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    The Associated Press is copywritten. That means you need permission to publish their poll. It might not sound like a big problem. And it might not be a huge problem but you are violating a rule. We can't cite things like that without first getting permission or at least publicly acknowledging the source. That's what a copyright is. Some things might not fall under a copyright. Simply listing the ranked teams probably isn't a voilation. But taking that data (data mining it) and using it to promote yourself or something similar assuredly IS. And you've done that repeatedly. Simply acknowledging it's AP data you are using isn't sufficient to ward off litigation. I've told you multiple times to stop.
    It's a copyright. Means you need permission to apply that data to your own end. Which I'm sure you've probably never done. It's upsetting. Pisses me off it might not bother anyone we but it upset me. Stop it
    Quit using their data to make an inference about strength of opponent.
     
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    Where did I publish their poll? How are you not guilty of what you accuse me when you post sports reference rankings?
     
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    Apparently you can’t read ...it is right there....Sooners #1....look again

    1 -Oklahoma 43 56 2 0.436
    2 -Southern California 38 59 1 0.393
    3 -Ohio State 27 44 3 0.385
    4 -Florida State 35 58 1 0.378
    5 -Miami-Florida 29 53 0 0.354
    6 -Michigan 32 63 2 0.340
    7 -Nebraska 27 54 1 0.335
    8 -Florida 36 74 2 0.330
    9 -Auburn 35 74 2 0.324
    10 -Notre Dame 32 70 1 0.316
    11 -Alabama 26 60 2 0.307
    12 -Texas 28 66 1 0.300
    13 -Boise State 3 8 0 0.273
    14 -Washington 24 66 1 0.269
    15 -Louisiana State 24 68 2 0.266
    16 -Penn State 22 64 1 0.259
    17 -Georgia 22 65 2 0.258
    18 -Clemson 17 50 1 0.257
    19 -Oregon 18 55 1 0.250
    20 -Stanford 22 74 1 0.232
    21 -Tennessee 20 77 4 0.218
    22 -Iowa 17 64 1 0.213
    23 -Michigan State 20 79 0 0.

    Tells the real story Sooners #1
     

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