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Discussion in 'College Football Soundoff' started by DTP2, May 19, 2019.
USC #1 in the pac again
Auburn in the top ten on these doesn’t surprise me.
You have Appy St 0-0, they beat a final ranked Michigan #18 in 2007. Michigan was #5 when they got upset by Appy St.
Starting near the end of the ‘70s sucks for Bama since the ‘70s was one of its most successful decades in its history.
Boo hoo. Bama gets no sympathy
Everybody loves us baby, what’s the matter with you?
Won’t you tell us what did we do, to offend you?
Anyway, Alabama supported UF in the 1984 brouhaha and this is the thanks we get?
Just FBS vs FBS games counted here.
Good stuff. No shockers. Oregon and GT are a bit higher than expected. Virginia Tech lower than expected.
Crazy how many more games some teams like UF, Auburn, OU, FSU, and Michigan have played.
Some significant gaps after the top 4, and again after top 12.
Is this since 1978 again?
Yes. 1978. GT surprised me too.
Ehh. They were pretty average for a lot of years. And these numbers don’t include their heyday in the 60s. Until Saban started, uhh, increasing their investments in their program and talent, they had a long run of underachievement.
When did Appy become FBS?
Is this your work, or is there a link?
Shouldn’t surprise anyone. I tell folks this often, but from 1986-1992, the ONLY, and I mean only, non-Miami program FSU played that could consistently match our physicality and at least be in the same ball park as our athleticism was Auburn.
Miami and FSU were just on another level from everyone else back then in team speed and physicality. But Auburn came to effing play and they let you know they weren’t overwhelmed.
Sucks for Ohio State, Pitt, ND, OU and others too.
They became a full member again in 2015. No link. Just used information I have on spreadsheet to calculate it.
Thanks... Is there a site that lists this data you know of? Thanks for the hard work. Interesting.
1. They're stupid or
2. they know they'll get the desired reaction.
Not that I aware of. Sorry.
This is the single best post you’ve ever had.
There used to be. Cfbtrivia.com. But @ktffan made it inactive.
So you’re giving it a C-?
I used his site on occasion and he helped me out once or twice.
This confirms for me that schools without built in recruiting advantages have a very narrow margin for error in hiring coaches. IMO if Frost cannot get Nebraska a conference championship, the glory days of husker football will be truly over. Additionally, the huskers sustained success of the 70s through the 90s is very impressive.
Though Bama should NOT claim 1973 or 1978
1973 in a battle of undefeateds #1 Bama played #2 Notre Dame in the National title and lost in the Sugar Bowl
1978 Bama and U$C both finished with 1 loss but U$C beat Bama at Legion Field in Alabama 24-14.
I realize the UPI voted Bama #1 before the Sugar Bowl in 1973. And the AP awarded Bama the Natty for the 1978 season. And this is hard to argue against. Except USC best you head to head in Alabama.
Not really serious, doesn't matter at the end of the day. Bama is on the best run in the Superbowl era.. followed closely by Miami of the 80's to 90's with 4 between 1983 to 1991 and another in 2001. Plus playing for or finishing #2 three or four other times in that span.
Well I guess Penn State should not claim the 1982 Natty as they lost to Alabama at Legion Field. As far as 1978 if USC had not crapped the bed a couple of weeks after playing Alabama they would have likely been champions.
In 1973 the rules, like in many years, the NC was voted on before bowl games. I remember Kentucky beating Oklahoma in a bowl game and OK getting the championship. Teams play different if something as important as a Natty is on the line.
For Notre Dame, research shows this data;
If this is indeed teams defeated THAT FINISHED IN THE AP TOP 25 since 1978, I don't think it's accurate. I did some research on this and found 74 such teams, not 64, for Notre Dame.
Dan Devine had 8 from 1978-80
Gerry Faust 5 from 1981-85
Lou Holtz 31 from 1986-96
Bob Davie 5 from 1997-2001
Ty Willinghman 8 from 2002-04
Charlie Weis 1 from 2005-09
Brian Kelly 16 so far from 2010-18
That adds up to 74 by my count. I'm not saying my research on this is flawless, but this is what I came up with while tabulating it.
There’s multiple lists in this thread. Some are only top 15. Also, some are only regular season (and are indicated as such).
I said, I was half joking... So untwist thy panties...
I have 73 through postseason. I have Faust era with four whether or not it is correct.
K, no biggie... A lot of work to do this. Expect a typo or whatever.
Did you count vacated wins? Again no biggie....
No just counted on field results.
Should be that every year...
Which is why I don't bust out Bama often...
Prior to joining the Big East in 1992, VT was a strong G-5 level program.
USC won 3 titles in the 70’s as well.
I'd much rather keep FSU at the end of the year and do a round robin of PAC OOC to start the season. A little UM here and there would be fine too, but I'd prefer variety.
ND had two, 1973-1977
In 1970 ND finished #2 AP with a 10-1 record but crushed undefeated #1 Texas 24-11 to snap their 30 game win streak. Nebraska won it with a 10-0-1 season (tied U$C Trojans 21-21). They beat #5 LSU 17-12 in the Orange Bowl. Stanford beat #2 O$U Buckeyes 27-17.
True. But 1992-2018 is like 60% of the sample set.
Kind of surprised that Michigan wasn't ranked when App State shocked them in the Big House.
They were #5 and finished #18 AP at 9-4. But Appy St wasn't FBS. This is FBS against FBS. Appy is now FBS but wasn't in 2007