AP Poll

[MGC_07]

http://m.espn.com/ncb/rankings

1. MSU
2. Duke
3. Nova
4. ASU
5. Xavier
6. West Virginia
7. Trae You- Oklahoma
8. Virginia
9. Wichita State
10. Kansas
11. Texas A&M
12. North Carolina
13. Purdue
14. Arizona
15. Miami
16. TCU
17. Kentucky
18. Texas Tech
19. Cincinnati
19. Gonzaga
21. Seton Hall
22. Arkansas
23. Tennessee
24. Florida State
25. Clemson

 

[WojoRising]

I feel like it’s just destiny Duke and Sparty meet in the NCG

 

[Cat_Incognito]

Strange that Kentucky dropped a spot despite winning both games this week, including laying the wood to in state rival.

 

[GE Nole]

Two top 15 opponents for FSU this week, fresh off the road loss to Duke. Life in the ACC.

 

[wesr]

Strange that Kentucky dropped a spot despite winning both games this week, including laying the wood to in state rival.

They didn't look good in both games against inferior opponents.

 

[Cat_Incognito]

They didn't look good in both games against inferior opponents.

Right ... So drop them one spot huh?

You're terrible

 

[wesr]

Right ... So drop them one spot huh?

You're terrible

Kansas dropped the week before after two wins and didn't look good in those wins. It happens is all I'm saying.

 

[Cat_Incognito]

Kansas dropped the week before after two wins and didn't look good in those wins. It happens is all I'm saying.

Who did they beat?

 

[wesr]

Who did they beat?

I can't remember. They weren't p5 and it was the same week OU upset WSU.

Edit

Neb Omaha and at Nebraska

 

[Cat_Incognito]

I can't remember. They weren't p5 and it was the same week OU upset WSU.

So you're likening KU's struggles with cupcakes to UK beating 2 P5 schools? One of those being in-state rival, fringe blue-blood Louisville? Good take.

 

[Cat_Incognito]

But really, it's probably a moot point. UK is about to lose a lot of games because the SEC is pretty tough this year, and conference roadies are tough.

 

[wesr]

But really, it's probably a moot point. UK is about to lose a lot of games because the SEC is pretty tough this year, and conference roadies are tough.

I updated the post on who KU played. Exactly,it's early and Calipari is still figuring this team out.

 

[Mgkcbb]

But really, it's probably a moot point. UK is about to lose a lot of games because the SEC is pretty tough this year, and conference roadies are tough.

Plus, human polls suck anyways. Dont concern yourself with them, they arent accurate and follow weird unwritten rules.

 

[MGC_07]

Plus, human polls suck anyways. Dont concern yourself with them, they arent accurate and follow weird unwritten rules.

I think polls are good for the eye test, but I like KenPom to look at adjusted O efficiency and adjusted D efficiency. But can someone explain how MSU has 2 Defense 10 offense, and Nova has 2 offense and 24 Defense, but Nova is ahead. Thanks in advance

 

[CardinalBoiler]

I think polls are good for the eye test, but I like KenPom to look at adjusted O efficiency and adjusted D efficiency. But can someone explain how MSU has 2 Defense 10 offense, and Nova has 2 offense and 24 Defense, but Nova is ahead. Thanks in advance

The value used to rank the teams is the "margin" between the adjusted O and D efficiencies for each team, rather than the ranking relative to each team. So, for example, Nova's Ortg (124.2) minus their Drtg (94.4) is ~29.8. Meanwhile, MSU's "margin" is ~29.3. Essentially this creates their estimated margin against an "average" team over the course of 100 possessions.

Hopefully that helps.

 

[MGC_07]

The value used to rank the teams is the "margin" between the adjusted O and D efficiencies for each team, rather than the ranking relative to each team. So, for example, Nova's Ortg (124.2) minus their Drtg (94.4) is ~29.8. Meanwhile, MSU's "margin" is ~29.3. Essentially this creates their estimated margin against an "average" team over the course of 100 possessions.

Hopefully that helps.

Thanks, that helps

 

[ExitFlagger]

Yeah, KU really struggled in that 45-point win over Omaha.

 

[wesr]

Lots of basketball left to play but th

Yeah, KU really struggled in that 45-point win over Omaha.

you are right they didn't struggle against Omaha. Outside of that game KU wasnt playing good basketball at that time.

 

[hailtoyourvictor]

Michigan there yet?

 

[MileHighSpartan]

Michigan there yet?

No votes this week in the AP poll, which is weird because they did have 1 vote in last week's AP poll. They had 5 votes in last week's Coach's Poll though.

 

[hailtoyourvictor]

No votes this week in the AP poll, which is weird because they did have 1 vote in last week's AP poll. They had 5 votes in last week's Coach's Poll though.

Weird

 

[MileHighSpartan]

Weird

Looks like it was former MSU beat writer Joe Rexrode, who gave UM the 1 vote last week:

http://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/team/michigan-wolverines/2017

 

[denniden]

Two top 15 opponents for FSU this week, fresh off the road loss to Duke. Life in the ACC.

It’s going to be a battle All year long. Just don’t see a runaway winner in the ACC.

 

[GE Nole]

It’s going to be a battle All year long. Just don’t see a runaway winner in the ACC.

Miami doesn't look as cohesive as the Larkin team that finished first in the regular season and won the ACC Championship. UNC has some weaknesses too. Louisville obviously misses Pitino and ND seems off somehow.

And UVA, Clemson, and FSU all look better than expected.

I'm guessing Duke finishes first with 3/4 losses and it's a blood bath for spots 2-8.

 

[hailtoyourvictor]

Looks like it was former MSU beat writer Joe Rexrode, who gave UM the 1 vote last week:

http://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/team/michigan-wolverines/2017

I wonder what rustled him so much to remove it

 

[MileHighSpartan]

I wonder what rustled him so much to remove it

I'd assume it had more to do with other teams just having "better" wins in that 25-30 range. This week, he has Seton Hall as #25 after they beat formerly ranked Creighton.

 

[MOX-MOX]

dont care about the polls. ive seenb ky ranked 7 or 8 and end up with a 4 seed or an 8 seed and alot of thought by the committee about who might beat them.

I bet the players of my team care though.

 

[speedfrk]

Two top 15 opponents for FSU this week, fresh off the road loss to Duke. Life in the ACC.

Into the fire