Anything Davis traded to the lakers

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  1. BucksLAN

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    That's a pretty good deal if you're the Lakers. Lebron and Anthony Davis on the same team? Would not be surprised at all if 1 more big name player ends up on the Lakers.
     
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    No, they’re exactly the same.
    Uh, maybe for the supporting cast. But one more big-ticket FA signing is number A1 on L.A.’s agenda. It’s obvious they’re seeking a window while Lebron is still viable (which is 2-3 more years).
     
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    Injuries are part of the game man. You can build a super team all you want, nobody is guaranteeing their health. You can put an asterisk beside the Raptors title all you want. They stayed the course and remained the healthier team. That's part of winning as well...

    Let's not forget... The Raptors were 4-1 in the series when Golden State has two hall of famers on the floor in Curry and Thompson (both in their prime) and third guy, Draymond, who people tell me will be a Hall of Famer as well... Being without KD is huge, but Golden State, with three future hall of fame starters was emphatically outplayed (swept at Oracle) by Kawhi and a bunch solid contributors.

    Don't act like Toronto didn't earn it.
     
  4. IrishInOntario

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    Kemba makes them the top team in the West with the addition of a couple middle tier signees who want to leech a title and a key vet l guy on a minimum deal.
     
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    NFL draft picks are a lot more valuable.
    You can draft starters from round 1 to round 4.
    So trading those picks you are giving up 4 starters for one.
    One player in the NFL doesn't make a huge difference like in basketball
     
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    People keep commenting about how Lebron missed the playoffs, but didn't he spend a lot of the season out with injury? I'm far from a Lebron homer but let's not pretend the injury didn't play a factor in trying to put him down.
     
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    Everyone knows Toronto would not be champs had the Warriors not suffered injuries before and during this series. Yes Raptors won it, they're the champs, but they would not beat a healthy Warriors team. KD was out all series, suffered a torn achilles trying to come back. Cousins was rushed back, and was not 100% at any point in this series. And Klay missed a game, came back (probably wasn't 100% either), and then tore his ACL after putting up 30 points in an elimination game.

    So when I see stuff like they can beat the Warriors or hang with the Warriors or other super teams and that you 'dont need a super team to win an NBA title', you pretty much have to put an asterisk beside it.
     
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    Way too many “if’s” right now to know who got the better of this trade, and doesn’t sound like either team is done dealing.

    My biggest question no one is really asking, what type of Lebron are we going to see from here on out? Dude is mid-30’s with a TON of NBA mileage on him. Kobe’s decline happened real fast.
     
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    The Lakers went from the 4th seed in the west and plummeted way out of the playoff seedings when that Lebron injury happened.

    It's almost like losing a top 3 player in the NBA has a dramatic effect on the outcome of a playoff race... or an NBA finals series.
     
  10. Nole in Toronto

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    Haha, an asterisk. That’s what you call a hot garbage take. FOH
     
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    In the long term, this will help the Celtics especially if they sign and trade Kyrie for D’Angelo Russel.

    How would you rate this lineup?

    PG- DLo
    SG - Smart
    Sf- Brown
    PF - Tatum
    C - Horford
     
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    It's part of my point... I'm not a Lebron hater. Dude owned my Raptors for years in the East. My point, however, is that if you build a super team around 3 contracts and a bunch of scrubs, you run the risk of collapsing if a star gets hurt. It's part of the risk / reward scenario...

    Lebron played 55 games in 2018-2019 and finished 10th in the West, missing the playoffs...

    Kawhi played 60 games (load management) in 2018-2019 and Toronto finished with the NBA's 2nd best record...

    Neither team had another star, Toronto was just deeper and more well rounded. They were 15-5 when Kawhi was not in the lineup. What was LA's record without Lebron?

    Surely Lebron + AD will be a force, but they have a lot more work to do in free agency, because as it stands, if either is injured (which is a high probability given their recent track records) LA is in trouble in the West.
     
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    Sign and trade for DLo? Sign and trades don’t net you a player like DLo, not how they work.
     
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    NBA draft only has 2 rounds.
     
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    In the minds of the ignorant
    Who said they didn't
     
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    Except a majority of fans not living in Toronto agree with that hot garbage take. Congrats on the championship but it doesn't happen with the injuries the Warriors had to deal with, and it sure as shit doesn't happen if Toronto was the team without their best player like the Warriors were.
     
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    Toronto swept the regular season series against Golden State, including a win without Kawhi and finished with a better record than Golden State in the NBA standings... Second to only Milwaukee.

    Look, I think a 100% healthy Golden State would have probably won a 6-7 game series, but let's not act like Toronto didn't stand a chance. There was no evidence of that over the course of the 2019 seaso... People citing Klay and Boogie being injured don't even talk about the fact that Kawhi and Lowry were playing through injuries as well.

    Why does everyone want to create every possible excuse for Golden State. I'll give you KD. That's a huge loss... But 3 hall of famers and 60-70% of Boogie wasn't enough?...
     
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    I have a suggestion for you. Stop listening to idiots like Skip Bayless if you’re not going to draw your own opinion.
     
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    Who cares? A title is a title, just because 1 of Golden State's 5 all stars got hurt, doesn't mean Toronto didn't earn the title.

    Nobody will give a shit in 10 years anyway, nobody can take the title away from Toronto. I sense a lot of sour grapes in your post.
     
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    Them’s the breaks in the sports world. The Warriors were still absolutely stacked with all-stars. Perhaps if they had an elite medical staff like the Raptors, they’d be able to manage their conditioning better.
     
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    None of them are going to be lottery picks. If all three of those are 20 or later you’re looking at maybe one of those guys becoming something useful.
     
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    Brought it up after his groin injury , Media talks like he is still 28. LeBron is a physical freak but he is at the age when Kobe started breaking down
     
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    My bad. I didn’t realize one of them is the number 4 this year.
     
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    4 hall of famers.... Not just All Stars... Could you imagine if Toronto's team was...

    PG: Russell Westbrook(Curry)
    SG: Kyrie Irving (Thompson)
    SF: Kawhi Leonard (Durant)
    PF: Blake Griffin (Green)
    C: Marc Gasol 70% (Cousins)

    And they cried because Kawhi got hurt... 3 hall of famers and a banged up All star isn't enough?
     
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    I’m totally wrong. Pelicans did pretty well now that I know one of them is the 4 pick.

    I’m an idiot. I deserve any bit of shit you give me.
     
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    If they trade that #4 pick, they could wind up with quite the team...

    Drue Holiday
    Julius Randle
    Brandon Ingram
    Lonzo Ball

    Is a good young group. The #4 pick could get you an All star caliber guard to pair with Holiday... Then you have 6 first round picks in the next 3-4 years. Things look bright if they have patience and make some key role player signings.
     
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    I actually don't think it's a bad trade on either side. The Lakers didn't have to give up Kuzma and they are going all out for a title before Lebron is done. They will try to get another star in free agency to pair with AD and Lebron which will make them the favorites.

    On the other hand if Lebron falls off this year or next then the Pelicans will reap the rewards year after year in the draft. How the trade is ultimately viewed will depend on whether or not the Lakers get a title in the next few years, I certainly can't blame them for trying.
     
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    Add Zion to that group and it is an exciting young core for sure.
     
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    I was wondering what your angle was lol.
     
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    You forgot Zion
     
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    That is overstating things a bit. Klay was hurt during the series as well.

    Obviously Toronto earned it. You can only play who is in front of you.
     
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    Klay played in the first 4 games, Toronto won 3 of them. Toronto deserved the title.
     
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    I seriously doubt Kyrie is going to resign, and you could get more in return for him if he did.
     
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    Klay didn't play in the first 4 games.
     
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    He missed game 3 but played every other less the 4th quarter in game 6.
     
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    He won’t. Brooklyn May be willing to sign and trade Russell to Boston though. Of course, they would want something in return
     
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    I’m confused. The Nets don’t need to do a sign and trade with anybody. They have room for two max deals. And the only way they use that on two max players would involve Kyrie going to the Nets without a sign and trade.

    My sign and trade with DLo would involve Tobias Harris in the KD-Kyrie to Nets free agency rumors. In that scenario the Nets would have signed Kyrie so DLo is redundant. Also being without KD would spark them to do something else. They love Tobias Harris and Russell would fit the Sixers better than Harris does.

    The only other sign and trade I could see for Celtics would be a sign and trade to a team that doesn’t have cap space like a Denver involving Kyrie.
     
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    My bad, forgot he missed game 3. That being said he also played most of game 5.
     
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    Think the Pelicans might try to get Beal with that 4th pick trade
     
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    Exactly...Too much

    .No Kuzma. No deal.
     

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