A Mod can't handle the UCFacts - Which everyone wants to discuss

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Will UCF host the ESP5N Cartel’s College Gameday this year?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. Idk, I’m a tshirt bandwagoner

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  4. I’m an Uncle Rico who remembers cfb before College Gameday

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  1. Skyhawk48

    Skyhawk48 Well-Known Member
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    Basic cable? Damn you must be one of the poors.

    Get back to table four.
     
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    You had one job Auburn. SmokinSmile
     
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    They were ranked 3rd with the number 2 team with a loss
     
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    Right up there with winning a Colley Matrix National Championship?
     
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    Maybe if your AD would spend more time working on your out-of-conference schedule and less time grandstanding...
     
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    Yes, and both Oregon and Auburn finished undefeated that year. If you believe they would have left both out for Boise, feel free to believe that.
     
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    "Can't" can't do anything but get sand in its butt....

    The people who build "the thing" determining how it is run IS normal until some outsider dreams up they know a better, no cost to them, way for them to gain access "the Thing". Of course it is only arrogance that makes those originators think they know better than watering down the mix... "The Bowden way", IS there, probably more so since TV revenues are what they are.... Make a name and winning against the big wheels and the chances are pretty good you draw enough interest and can get in and go....
     
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    Freaking Barners.
     
  9. MelbBamaFan

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    Just another reason to hate them
     
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    No reason they should.... Boise State was 11-1 that year... The did beat a 10-2 Ute team by 23 to reach 12 wins....

    In your myopic view you pretend the route to the "Promised Land" for either of the two mentioned was equivalent for measure against Boise's year....

    Sure.
     
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    Not -yet - going to start shouting about this year's team. But I still think last years CFP ranking was total BS. Not necessarily saying they should have been top-4 prior to beating Auburn - but 6 or 7 is more like it(8 tops). They should have been 4-5 in the EoS polls.

    But agreed - that statement needs to say "3 P5 teams annually"
     
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    When backing yourself into a corner and losing an argument, you deflect. I’d expect nothing less.

    But yeah, that’s exactly what I said - that I have basic cable. Not.

    Just stop. I’m legitimately embarrassed for you.

    Is Herbstreit around? I think you need some help.
     
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    I have trouble believing they can't get P5 teams to do H&H. Seems like they have got several to do so in recent years,
     
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    Absolutely perfect play by play brakedown of this thread.

    The irony is so great. I especially like the ones saying swj when it’s so clear that they are the ones who are the most triggered.


    #UCFacts

    SmokinSmile
     
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    Schedules are made years in advanced. Learn your UCFacts. My UCFriend Danny the AD is just about to celebrate his 3 year anniversary at UCF. So he isn’t responsible for our schedule for the last few years.

    UNC were best in their division when we scheduled them. Another UCFact that you should know which shows how stupid your post is.

    #UCFacts

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    Are you implying the P5 teams do not want that?
     
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    If they did, we wouldn't be using a committee. Of course, we may misunderstand each other here.
     
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  18. DTP2

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    Good thing Minnesota earned their seat at the big table during the leather helmet years.
     
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    "Best" doesn't really matter if nobody watches. Some other guy ranking your games as "the best" matters about as much as my opinion does. But ratings do matter and do tell the story. People aren't watching UCF as much as they watch other ranked teams in the same time slots on the same networks on other weekends.

    That's what shows that the majority of the college football viewing public has no interest in UCF. The fact that it aligns with my feelings just means I'm part of the standard view on this particular issue. Your view is the minority.
     
  20. GarzaJ

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    No college team receives $60 million from ESPN or any TV deal. The teams have built up their ticket sales from alumni and t shirt fans (which UCF seems to despise). Several SEC and Big Ten teams receive 1st, 2nd and 3rd rights (radio and signage) which may approach $60. UCF lacks a fanbase with $$$.

    Why should a big school allocate an away game to school like UCF? The big schools have budgets with lots of non revenue sports. How many non conference away games does UCF play per year? P5 schools usually play 1 and schedule cupcakes. P5 schools have season ticket holders who complain about the quality of the non conference games.

    Why should any P5 school schedule UCF as an away game? Neutral site games are very lucrative for teams with fan bases who travel because of the premium ticket prices. No guarantee UCF will not tank since they have a recent 0 - 12 season. Who would want to play at UCF during an 0 - 12 season?
     
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    #UCFacts

    SmokinSmile
     
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  22. NotQyteNeo

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    Additionally, it is Orlando we're talking about here.

    "No, Coach(or AD), we don't want to go to Orlando!!!" ... said nobody ever (also large reason why it is the fastest growing school)
     
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  23. GarzaJ

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    Mizzou and A&M were taken as equals because they added value by providing the added markets for the SEC Network. I believe the SEC was the only P5 conference to add teams as equals because the SEC asked for an increase from CBS and ESPN . None of the 12 schools took a reduced payout.
     
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    The AAC is not as good as the PAC...
     
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    I have a convoluted system where teams get points for MOV both home and elevated points away games with Neutral sites getting a neutral number for a win. Just my thing that does not have predictability, just MOV home and away.


    UCF team total points ranked #3
    UCF points of opponents ranked #88
    UCF points combined total points and points of opponents ranked #71

    SEC top 25 has 4 teams with total points, 5 teams points of opponents, 5 combined
    AAC top 25 has 2 teams with total points, 2 teams points of opponents, 2 combined

    SEC 26-50 has 2 teams with total points, 4 teams points of opponents, 5 combined
    ACC 26-50 has 0 teams with total points, 3 teams points of opponents, 1 combined

    SEC 51-75 has 4 teams with total points, 4 teams points of opponents, 4 combined
    AAC 51-75 has 2 teams with total points, 1 team points of opponents, 4 combined

    SEC 76-100 has 3 teams with total points, 1 team points of opponents, 0 combined
    AAC 76-100 has 1 teams with total points, 2 teams points of opponents, 2 combined

    SEC 101-125 has 1 team with total points, 0 teams points of opponents, 0 combined
    AAC 101-125 has 3 team with total points, 3 teams points of opponents, 3 combined

    SEC 126-129 has 0 team with total points, 0 teams opponents points, 0 combined
    AAC 126-129 has 2 team with total points, 1 team opponents points, 0 combined

    In the top 75 the SEC has 13 teams of total opponents points
    In the top 75 the ACC has 6 teams of total opponents points

    UCF is ranked #88 in opponent points
     
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    ??? You speak of no one watching …. Almost no one (Nation Wide) has watch a Alabama game this year past the 1 QTR... The game was over and are boring … most college football fans switched channels as-fast-as-they-could. Heck South Florida's games have been more interesting than watching Alabama - this year …
     
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    Here's the thing, opinions are just like assholes - everyone has one and some (like yours) are more full of sh*t than others.

    So let's see just how far out of touch with reality you really are...

    "People aren't watching UCF as much as they watch other ranked teams in the same time slots on the same networks on other weekends."


    Hmm... you sure about that?

    ABC: Noon time slot (ranked by viewers)
    1. Miami vs. Pitt - 4.663M
    2. Michigan vs. Indiana - 4.210M
    3. Oklahoma St. vs. Texas - 3.923M
    4. Cincinnati vs. Michigan - 3.693M
    5. UCF vs. Memphis - 3.385M
    6. Oklahoma St. vs. W. Virginia - 3.365M
    7. Virginia vs. Miami - 3.339M
    8. UCLA vs. Memphis - 3.238M
    9. OkSt vs. ISU/NCST vs. BC - 2.995M
    10. NW vs. Wisconsin - 2.890M
    11. Penn St. vs. NW - 2.887M
    12. Wisconsin vs. Indiana - 2.834M
    13. Georgia vs. Georgia Tech - 2.766M
    14. Akron vs. Penn St. - 2.332M

    ABC: 3:30/4pm time slot (ranked by viewers)
    1. Michigan vs. Florida - 7.805M
    2. USF vs. UCF - 4.700M
    3. Iowa vs. Wisconsin - 3.780M
    4. Pitt vs. Penn St. - 3.701M
    5. Indiana vs. Michigan St. - 3.547M
    6. Georgia Tech vs. Miami - 3.441M
    7. USC vs. Cal - 3.122M
    8. Illinois vs. Ohio State - 3.093M
    9. FSU vs. Wake Forest - 2.955M
    10. TCU vs. Iowa St/UCLA vs. Wash - 2.850M
    11. Clemson vs. NC St. - 2.831M
    12. Wisconsin vs. Minnesota - 2.600M
    13. Notre Dame vs. UNC - 2.505M
    14. Wisconsin vs. BYU - 2.274M

    http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college-football-tv-ratings/2/

    Just so you're aware, your UCFacts don't care about your opinions or your UCFeelings.

    But it's okay, I forgive you. I can't imagine having my head buried in the sand for as long as yours has been.

    Go take a couple laps. I'll let you know when you can stop.
     
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    Alabama vs Ole Miss got 4.1 million viewers at 7PM on ESPN.
    The following week UCF's game got 1.2 million.

    So... not very accurate.
     
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    My point is that there are methods that do give some credit to the AAC as a result of the former paradigm. Which would entail giving an exemption. You don't have to like it. I'm not sure the measure to which it applies, honestly I think the AAC should be admitted on their own terms. Which possibly might remove them from the selection process. But they're a pretty respectable conference from which to infer a championship.
     
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    Viewership as what to do with fair competition rules? I doubt every team that plays in the same league in every other sport is equally popular among fans and TV viewers but the NFL, for example, doesn't spot the Cowboys a two game lead over its rivals.
     
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    Nailed it.

    #UCFacts

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    The game against Memphis was championship game weekend. The earlier game you played (on ESPN2) got 440K viewers. Your championship game was lower in viewers than every P5 conference. UCF had literally no P5 vs P5 competition in that time slot.

    For comparison... UGA-Auburn had 13 million viewers and OSU-Wisky had 12.9 million. YOu weren't even in the ballpark.

    People were hoping to see UCF lose the week before against USF. YOu were still 4th for the day and didn't win the time slot (Auburn-Bama had 13.6 million viewers at the same time). But yes... you did draw a crowd of BCS fans watching in hopes of seeing UCF lose. It wasn't until the last game of the regular season you got any eyes.

    The rest of the year: 144K, 369K (ESPN2), 131K, 442K(espn2), 247K (FS1)... and that was it.

    So no... people don't want to watch UCF much... unless there is either no other option (championship weekend) or if they're hoping to see you fail in your last shot at failing.

    What's funny is if you take out the championship game with more competition, people were more interested in watching Lane Kiffin at USF than UCF last year. 992K (espn), 1.3m (ESPN), 545K (ESPN), 163K, 74K, 177k, 284K (ESPN2), 173K. Those numbers still aren't great... but they're better than UCF (other than the conference championship).
     
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    Well -- I was in Kansas City at the time … didn't watch it

    … I saw the score was 30-10 at half time … I never turn the channel to check out a game that was already over with

    … I seriously doubt 4.1 million watch the second quarter of that lop-sided trash game --- and I suggest even less watched the 2nd half ...
     
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    The ratings are what they are. If you choose to not believe them then there's not much anyone can say to convince you about what people are interested in on TV.
     
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    Apparently the ND argument doesn’t work for UCF..
     
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    What were the viewership numbers for the "2 best" UCF games? UCF/USF was heavily promoted by the ESPN cartel. The UCF/Memphis rematch resembled an old WAC game.
     
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    yes the American Football fan never dumps a game that is over and holds no interest --- just to watch a more interesting game …. yes we all put it on one channel and never change it … I bet even you quit watching it by the 3rd quarter (if you watched it at all) …
     
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    ROFLOL, He mentions 2 games from last year. Only Texas fears Maryland.
     
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    We were literally talking about how UCF had 2 of the best games in CFB last year, to which you directly replied with "doesn't really matter if nobody watches" and said "people aren't watching UCF as much as they watch other ranked teams in the same time slots on the same networks on other weekends." To which I replied with actual UCFacts that show that everything you said was UCFalse.

    Were those examples you provided aired on the same network and during the same time slots? Nope.

    Your "facts" were exposed to be false. So, of course, what do you do next?
    [​IMG]

    RollLaugh
     
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